VAIL SUCKS

[jimmywilson69]

I wonder if Vail management (like Katz) reads this forum?

Rob Katz or anyone else with any influence at Vail couldn't give 2 shits what you or anyone else who buys a pass think.

 

[JimG.]

Amazingly Vail sucks more with each passing day.

 

[BenedictGomez]

In a couple years I think it will be downright delusional!

It's delusional now. In a couple years (maybe sooner) there will be a LOT of buyer's remorse. I've read R.E. agents already confident people buying today will soon be underwater.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Queue BG in 3...2...

Cost cutting & increased debt servicing.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

lol @ vail executives reading a niche board for eastern skiing with 50 active posters. we're lucky geoff and win read here.

 

[ThatGuy]

What do you mean, Rob Katz definitely spends his free time surfing niche internet skiing forums.

 

[ctdubl07]

BG, curious where I might find this reading? Is it more forum based opinions or industry articles citing subject matter experts? Honestly interested in learning more about this perspective, specifically what event(s) is going to create a loss for buyers directly attributable to Vail missteps vs a general correction on RE coming out of the housing fervor in general.

 

[BenedictGomez]

BG, curious where I might find this reading? Is it more forum based opinions or industry articles citing subject matter experts?

I have a TWTR account solely dedicated to finance/economics & I follow some industry peeps. One guy does a nationwide survey each month & posts R.E. agent thoughts from around the country. For instance, in his most recent one he focused on how supply disruption is leading to increased build times of new housing units (windows, cabinets, doors, garage doors are REALLY hard to procure right now) causing delays. Anyway, the concern that we may be near the top was a common one from last month.

 

[tumbler]

Pretty much all building materials are very hard to procure right now with long and variable lead times. And with the rising costs of materials it is hard to get a contractor to hold their original price.

 

[dblskifanatic]

Those are some surprisingly low increases. Did they not hit the numbers they were hoping for? So they're trying to keep the increases lower to encourage more purchases?

We have had the Epic Pass for 6 years now and they pull the same stunt every year. They broadcast out that pass prices are going to increase, panic buys set in and then they raise it by 10-20 dollars. So my guess is they do not want to put it out of reach with an increase. and they can use the increase threat to sell more passes.

 

[dblskifanatic]

Amazingly Vail sucks more with each passing day.

I still do not see the Vail Sucks aspects from my experiences. When I lived in Colorado, we were skiing BC Vail Breck (a lot) and Keystone. The only real issue was food prices but that did not bother me a whole lot. Parking fees but whenever we went o A Basin we paid to park as well at the small lot at the drop off area so we are already used to that so that was not a big deal either. Then there were the lines but the Epic Mix app helped to find shorter lines - not sure how many other resorts or companies have that. That was mostly around holidays or long weekends.

Sorry that people had some bad experiences at Wildcat and Attitash - never really like Attitash in any case. Wildcat early season was not a thing since we always went to Killington. Mid season we always did a day at Wildcat and/or Attitash because of "The Ride and Ski Card". Always found the lift and trail setup on the Attitash side to be a bit weird.

Hopefully they will get the staffing issues out of the way and things will be smoother. Somehow, I think ski areas will continue to struggle with staffing.

 

[2Planker]

Well there are definitely abunch of jobs "still hiring" @ Wildcat.
No New GM spot advertised, so Vail must have another newbie coming - Great......
https://jobs.vailresortscareers.com/wildcat/go/Wildcat-Jobs/8116800/

Cautiously Optimistic

 

[Geoff]

lol @ vail executives reading a niche board for eastern skiing with 50 active posters. we're lucky geoff and win read here.

I’m not exactly in the Win category. LOL

My interests didn’t align with AZ for a bunch of years so I stopped poking my nose in. I’ve skied all the Vail New England ski areas but not recently. The bitching in this thread is pretty relentless but there’s also some useful information so I stick around.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

I’m not exactly in the Win category. LOL

My interests didn’t align with AZ for a bunch of years so I stopped poking my nose in. I’ve skied all the Vail New England ski areas but not recently. The bitching in this thread is pretty relentless but there’s also some useful information so I stick around.

lol i was talking about geoff from magic, who posts sometimes as JamaicaMan, and his staff post and read as well, DoWork, and one other I think

 

[gittist]

I wonder what impact this will have?

Vail Resorts Announces CEO and Executive Succession

BROOMFIELD, Colo. — August 10, 2021— Vail Resorts, Inc. (NYSE: MTN) today announced that Kirsten Lynch, the Company’s chief marketing officer, will be appointed chief executive officer and...

news.vailresorts.com

Is Rob Katz being promoted or 'parked' where he can't do much of anything?

 

[jimmywilson69]

We talked about this a few pages ago. Its probably as much of a "look at us we have a female CEO" as it is a Katz starting to cashout. He'll still be very much an influential voice in the room.

Had to call Vail today because my card on file was hacked and I forgot to update it at Epic Pass for the renewal. They definitely have shipped the call center out of the country, as I've never had an adult call me Mr. <insert first name>. At least they answered and took care of me without much of an issue. Better than a stoner from Brahlorado fumbling through the process like last year.

 

[cdskier]

I wonder what impact this will have?

Vail Resorts Announces CEO and Executive Succession

BROOMFIELD, Colo. — August 10, 2021— Vail Resorts, Inc. (NYSE: MTN) today announced that Kirsten Lynch, the Company’s chief marketing officer, will be appointed chief executive officer and...

news.vailresorts.com

Is Rob Katz being promoted or 'parked' where he can't do much of anything?

We had a discussion on this starting around 14 pages back in this thread when that news first came out in August. Lots of different theories about why or what it means (although I don't think anyone thought Katz was being side-lined somehow from what I recall).

 

[jimmywilson69]

a few, 14 who knows

 

[abc]

Had to call Vail today because my card on file was hacked and I forgot to update it at Epic Pass for the renewal. They definitely have shipped the call center out of the country, as I've never had an adult call me Mr. <insert first name>.

LOL

I've had one incident, not with Vail but with one of my credit card company's help center. The kid exclaimed "You've been a member before I was born!"

Talk about cultural differences that no amount of language training can fix! By that comment you know you're not dealing with an immigrant worker with a hint of an accent. You KNOW you're talking to someone who lives his entire life in a foreign country. Never set foot in this country.

 

[MogulMonsters]

Does anyone know anything about the Attitash Yankee quad? Folks on FB say it’s broken and may not run this winter?

As if lines werent long enough last year….