The FAQ specifically says that they will not be tracking or storing the data of your vaccination status. Therefore they can't be linking it to your pass or ticket...
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VAIL SUCKS
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abc
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"Supposed to", it remains to be seen. And if I were a betting man, I'd bet they don't check id. So totally easy to cheat.
Knowing that (many cheat), whether you feel comfortable eating inside is your own choice.
Personally, I don't care either way.
jimmywilson69
Well-known member
I believe they were cashless last year as well o don't use cash so I don't knowTo complain further, Vail said they are going cashless which is annoying to me
At least they say they're going to load the lifts normally and will not require reservations - if Vail is doing this then others probably will, too
ss20
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This almost certainly means Alterra will announce their intentions this week and it will mimic Vails approach almost to a T or be a bit more lenient
drjeff
Well-known member
Honestly with the amount of data Vail has about myself and my family already, if they linked our vaccination status to our Epic passes, frankly it wouldn't bother/concern me at all
Wouldn't bother me either...although perhaps it is just more of a hassle for them to manage since it is health data so there are more compliance issues that come into play. So their solution is to just not track it or store it therefore they don't need to worry about dealing with it.
On the topic of how much data they have...I actually found it a bit scary and surprising how much data Vail has on me. I don't recall ever having registered on Epic's website, yet recently they told me I had an account when I went to create one. Did the "forgot my password" thing and was able to login. When I logged in it showed myself, my dad, my uncle, and my brother all listed under the house-hold members section (complete with birth-dates for everyone). For myself, my dad, and my uncle, we went zip-lining together at Stowe a few years ago. I'm guessing we had to provide birth-dates when we did that and think it was probably right after Vail bought Stowe, so that makes sense (although still was a surprise to see). For my brother though, the only thing I can figure is that Stowe kept the data from when myself, him, and my dad did a weekend ski trip to Stowe over a decade ago and that was transferred into Vail's system after the acquisition.
abc
Well-known member
That's nothing!
We gave up A LOT of information about ourselves to many many other entities. All in the name of "convenience"! Be my guest.
BenedictGomez
Well-known member
If this is true it is a thermonuclear affront to their customer's intelligence.
It appears to be true at least from the multiple vail releases i've seen. Unless they decide to walk it back after the dust settles from their dart board session. I honestly don't care either way as I won't be at any vail properties this winter, but talk about smoke and mirrors....
jimmywilson69
Well-known member
the gondola one is a headscratcher for sure. as well as the restaurant no mask thing. I'm guessing they feel they can social distance properly in the restaurant setting? where as the cafeteria setting will not be able to be social distanced. I know the cafeteria style settings at pretty much every resort are way too crowded even in a non-covid time.
kingslug
Well-known member
Last year the main cafeteria at Stowe had 19 tables. I think it holds 100..and they had a time limit..which I think they should keep. It prevents people from camping out all day there.
The Gondi is perplexing though..
The Gondi is perplexing though..
drjeff
Well-known member
Wear your mask from the door to the restaurant to your table. Don't need to wear your mask while sitting at your table and eating. Is the wearing of the mask while moving around actually doing much of anything other than a bit of virtue signlaing for those whom it makes them feel better?
What if it isn't just from the door to the table? What if someone is on the waiting list and hanging out inside for 30 minutes while their table is ready?
Easier for the restaurants to just lay out the policy and obviously someone can't have a mask on while eating.
Smellytele
Well-known member
Policy is for cafe never says anything about the table service places. If you are waiting for a table you reserved in the cafe and you are inside you have to have a mask on.
Correct.
I was responding to the idea that mask usage in restaurants was nothing more than virtue signalling.
Smellytele
Well-known member
ahhhh
drjeff
Well-known member
Speaking just from my Mount Snow indoor cafeteria area experiences last year. You waited for the table you made the reservation for outside. There was a glorified host/hostess stand outside where you initailly checked in. Then when they were ready for you inside,, you were sent to another host/hostess stand inside where they assigned you a table which you then proceeded to. You then had the table for 30 minutes, and there was staff walking around notifying you when your 30 minutes was up. No waiting around inside.
If this Winter, anyone inside the building over 12 (and with the seemingly looming approval of vaccines for those under 12 soon, probably a fair amount of those under 12 as well) as well as employees all being vaccinated, there is probably a bunch of the "out of an abundance of caution" overkill going on wth this that has probably as much, if not more to do with decisions from the risk manangement folks at Vail as it does with the public health folks in the jurisdiction areas the resorts are located in
RichT
Active member
No mention of the locker rooms or clubs.......
RichT
Active member
Great that Vail comes out with these rules right AFTER they took your payment!
