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VAIL SUCKS

dblskifanatic

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Honestly dude, you just seem eternally confused by everything based on all your posts since COVID began. Maybe just munch down a pot brownie and accept it. You don’t know what’s going on, I get it.

What is your deal! Why require masks walking into a restaurant and then allow people to sit with out masks very close to each other. Please explain that to me. There was a outdoor beer garden that was packed no masks required! Boston College games are packed - no masks required. I follow what ever rules are in place and I do not care but when a rule is set then other ancillary rules need to be added to make things consistent.
 

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Honestly dude, you just seem eternally confused by everything based on all your posts since COVID began. Maybe just munch down a pot brownie and accept it. You don’t know what’s going on, I get it.

He's right, scientifically it makes no sense to force people to enter the doorway wearing a mask, but 17 seconds later once they're seated merely a few feet away from numerous other tables to remain maskless for the duration of the 1 hour 13 minute, and 17 second meal. Is the 7 second walk to the table the most dangerous & infectious moment in the establishment? It's either an attempt at lawyer repellent or mandatory based on dopey government regs. Prove me wrong.
 

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What is your deal! Why require masks walking into a restaurant and then allow people to sit with out masks very close to each other. Please explain that to me. There was a outdoor beer garden that was packed no masks required! Boston College games are packed - no masks required. I follow what ever rules are in place and I do not care but when a rule is set then other ancillary rules need to be added to make things consistent.
I believe Boston College though is requiring proof of vaccination or negative test to attend games though. Perhaps that's why they are not requiring masks?
 

urungus

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What is your deal! Why require masks walking into a restaurant and then allow people to sit with out masks very close to each other. Please explain that to me.

I would imagine that the law says masks are required indoors, except while actively eating.
 

drjeff

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No law says that, executive order maybe. We can debate of those have been used for too long outside of normal lawmaking channels.
And that is a key distinction that is seemingly lost on many.

Just like the fines for cross state non quarantined travel in the early phases of COVID that rarely got issued and then very often were quietly dismissed when the Executive Order was challenged
 

ss20

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This has me a bit concerned for new regulations and the Covid signs being re-installed...


Eh... looking at the country as a whole we're back in a steep n steady covid decline of new cases. I wouldn't worry about it...at least on this most recent spike.
 

boston_e

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Eh... looking at the country as a whole we're back in a steep n steady covid decline of new cases. I wouldn't worry about it...at least on this most recent spike.
Yeah - I'd expect there to be some various restrictions - masks, maybe capacity limits in lodges or table reservations. I know Vail has said proof of vaccination is required for dining. There will be stuff like that but not likely widespread travel bans etc.
 

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I am guessing that your proof of vaccination will be linked to your Epic Pass or Day Ticket, which they will scan when you enter a building.

Probably will just need to get things uploaded into their system at the beginning of the season and then will be all set for the remainder of the season
Personally, I think it would be a huge PITA if it didn’t work that way. My credit card is linked to my pass. My vaccination credentials should be, too. My pass works for everything. I don’t need to fish out my phone and find some photo of a vaccine card from a jillion months ago.
 

KustyTheKlown

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^if you have an i-phone just make the pic of your card a favorite so you don't need to scroll your whole photo roll. useful day to day, not just for however vail administeres this.
 

drjeff

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Personally, I think it would be a huge PITA if it didn’t work that way. My credit card is linked to my pass. My vaccination credentials should be, too. My pass works for everything. I don’t need to fish out my phone and find some photo of a vaccine card from a jillion months ago.
I mean my Epic pass knows what my birthday is, and plays the first few bars from The Beatles "It's your Birthday" instead of the usual beeping sound when they have scanned it on my birthday in the past, atleast giving the Epic Passholder the option, if they want, to link their vaccination status to their Epic Pass shouldn't be a big deal either, and one that they (Vail Resorts) could likely easily tie into their scanner funtions and then have one at the points of entry into lodges where they will be requiring proof of vaccination to eat there.

Giving people the choice should be an option. If they don't want it linked, and want to show proof of vaccination in some other manual way, let those folks be able to do it that way.

I would suspect that the majority of vaccinated Epic Passholders, knowing what Vail's requirements for certain in lodge dining establishments will be this season, won't have an issue with their proof of vaccination being linked directly to their Epic Pass
 
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I think it's a HIPAA thing. You can't volunteer to waive the privacy requirements.

I can never get my doctor to email me a PT prescription. I just don't have the option to even waive my own personal information.
 
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drjeff

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I think it's a HIPAA thing. You can't volunteer to waive the privacy requirements.

I can never get my doctor to email me a PT prescription. I just don't have the option to even waive my own personal information.
HIPPA is essentially in its most basic form is something that when you sign it, that you agree that your doctor and/or designated healthcare provider/auxillary can discuss information about you with another healthcare provider/auxillary. For example if you were my patient, as your dentist, if needed I could discuss your case with say the oral surgeon I refer you to, or if say you need antiobiotics prior to a treatment visit because you had a knee replacement a year ago, then I could have my receptionist contact the pharmacy that you use to get you the presciption. For most practical purposes, that's what HIPPA is for most patients.

As for the example where you mentioned PT referrals and not being able to email them to you, that likely falls more in the area similar to when patients transfer to another office, we can't legally directly give them their records for them to bring along with them to their new office, but after a patient signs a release, then we have to directly send them to their new office to ensure that the records are intact when the new office receives them. I know when I make referrals, in addition to giving the patient a copy of the referral slip, I also, via secure server, need to email the office I am referring to, for legal purposes (or atleast that is what the risk management folks tell me! how it should be done! ;) )

Now in a case like we're talking about with vaccine status and being linked to an EPIC pass, that would be something where we, as the Epic Passholder, are choosing to volunteer our information to Vail Resorts, not unlike if we choose to link a credit card to our passes, so there likely wouldn't be any HIPPA implications.

And yes, I agree that the legal semantics in all of this can be a bit absurd! 🙄 :ROFLMAO: :dontknow: ;)
 

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As for the example where you mentioned PT referrals and not being able to email them to you, that likely falls more in the area similar to when patients transfer to another office, we can't legally directly give them their records for them to bring along with them to their new office, but after a patient signs a release, then we have to directly send them to their new office to ensure that the records are intact when the new office receives them. I know when I make referrals, in addition to giving the patient a copy of the referral slip, I also, via secure server, need to email the office I am referring to, for legal purposes (or atleast that is what the risk management folks tell me! how it should be done! ;) )
Yeah, but the absurdity being, I can get a paper copy sent to my home address. Just not an electronic one to my email! Not even a scanned copy of the script they stuff into an envelope!

But I'm allowed to scan it once I received it, and somehow upload it into the PT office's portal.

Perhaps it's the irrational fear of email hacking?
 

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MA is doing away w/ paper Rx's. Was supposed to happen in 2020, but Covid messed that up.

We've gone 100% Digital for all Rx's here.
Way safer for sure. Knows Pts Allg., Meds and figures out all the drug-drug interactions.
System hasn't crashed yet... But it's only been 3-4 months.
 

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All medication Rx is done electronically as far as I can tell. At least all my doctors.

PT is a little different I guess. Same goes for glasses etc.
 
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