eatskisleep
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As was evidence by Attitash being shut down all summer when just a few years ago there used to be 100s of families on any given day.
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VAIL SUCKS
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He was on an epic podcast, did not actually run a resort till vail moved him to the Midwest, then to keystone then eventually up to whistler
The Cat too. Zip Line, Weddings (mine) all used to happen. Not this year. Everything was locked up tight May-November
Where is everybody going to ski when these small places Vail bought out go belly up?
drjeff
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Pretty sure there wasn't much of an issue with the ASC resorts and liquidation and continued operations after their financial implosion. If the value is there, there's likely an investor who will find it. Heck, even in some cases if the value isn't there, there will probably be an investor who will find it
It's been said before.
Everyone reading this thread should definitely read Hal Clifford's Downhill Slide from 2003.
Twenty years later and it's so true all over again.... Very Sad indeed.
https://www.amazon.com/Downhill-Slide-Corporate-Industry-Environment/dp/1578051029
Everyone reading this thread should definitely read Hal Clifford's Downhill Slide from 2003.
Twenty years later and it's so true all over again.... Very Sad indeed.
https://www.amazon.com/Downhill-Slide-Corporate-Industry-Environment/dp/1578051029
Boxtop Willie
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Wonder what happens with places like Nashoba and Bradford? Huge ski schools, school groups, junior programs...quintessential "feeder hills". Both Fletcher and Sawyer are getting up there in age. Are they attractive to the likes of Vail or Alterra?
x10003q
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It wasn't locked up that tight. I was able to buy a t-shirt on July 31 this past summer and the triple was running. The snack bar was open. There were about 20-30 cars in the lot .
machski
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I thought the Cat this summer was due to the overhaul of the HSQ and thus lacking the summit lift.
Next door neighbor has been a Summer employee for 6 years.
He was told on May 1, "Vail says No more summer activities" and let go that day.
ctdubl07
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Ive been wondering same thing about Ski Sundown in New Hartford CT. It’s gotta be on size par with a number of these PA hills, is largely viewed as well run and is supposedly profitable for the local family that has owned it for sometime now.
It’s got a hardcore local following, strong patrol culture, decent snowmaking, longish season, big ski school, healthy race program, is used by a number of private schools, is huge with the Tweener set due to full night skiing and is smack in the middle of a strong discretionary spending metro population. Plus their passes are by no means cheap. I gotta think Brimfield has made numerous inquires if their still making moves like noted above.
Same with Pats Peak. Family-owned. I think they are on the third generation now.
Al Fletcher died this year. He was my HS race coach circa 1978
I don’t see vail buying pats peak, could boyne? Would the polar beverage crowd be interested?
Edd
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Why not? Where do you see the limits of their buying ski areas? It’s like a zombie corporation eating everything they see.
I think they are done in nh, For the most part, how many resorts can you own in a single state before the doj gets involved? I could see their interest in Breton woods or Waterville valley, but if they buy one of them do they have to sell one they already own?
Waterville valley for wildcat? Sounds good to me.
On a separate note according to the report attitash opens tomorrow on what appears to be one run from mid mtn and the learning center. Looking around at the non vail competition that's a pretty slow start. I suppose you have to hire people and make snow and stuff.
To be honest, I have no idea how many more that can do in the nh market, kinda using asc model as guideline but maybe the doj has changed their views on this as well, who knows, but I have no idea what the vail business plan is for their next purchase, I live in wmass, so the eastern mass, nh, maine market i am not really familiar with, especially Maine, never skied Maine.
