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VAIL SUCKS

abc

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Time to derail the Covid Crazies.

Vail needs to take a hint from the folks currently running Jay Peak. This is how you do Customer Service. Not refusing refunds to people unable to travel without breaking the law, not these half-assed copypasted letters from the GMs of all the areas Vail is fucking over. Way to build trust with your passholders, Steve Wright.
Excellent!
 

jaytrem

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Lol, I came to this thread for an entirely different purpose, but I guess I'll have to join in the vax discussion. Could you please give proof of this?
P.S: Official VAERS data reports three deaths linked to the vaccine, one of which happened a month after the second shot.
He doesn't understand how VAERS works. Ten seconds of googling explains it. But if I'm feeling bored today I might add another 50 or 60 deaths to the system. You don't even need to be a member of the medical community to do so.
 

johnl87

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Piss Poor roll out by people who told people not to take them under any circumstances that are now mandating it, vaccines developed in record time, no liability for big pharma if they cause injury or death, some people's reaction to mandates is to dig in harder and oppose, religious objections...
the vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission.

if youre fat or old, the vaccines are a good thing. if youre old and fat, then youre not a snowmaker.

vail decided to mandate vaccines regardless of what happens with the government mandate. why would a healthy snowmaker want to hand over their private health data to vail? will vail mandate other shots? will vail pay you if you get sick from the vaccine? why deal with this when you can get a job elsewhere for a company that doesn't treat you like a number?
 

RH29

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First post on the forum, you spew false information.

Or did you sign up with a different user name just to post misleading information?
He is partially correct. The vaccines are barely effective at reducing chances of infection or transmission. They are highly effective at preventing severe disease. Previously, vaccines were effective at preventing infection, but Omicron and Delta changed that.
 

Former Sunday Rivah Rat

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Lol, I came to this thread for an entirely different purpose, but I guess I'll have to join in the vax discussion. Could you please give proof of this?
P.S: Official VAERS data reports three deaths linked to the vaccine, one of which happened a month after the second shot.
Data obtained from VAERS:
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eatskisleep

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Can we get back on topic? Lol I want to talk about skiing and how much Vail Sucks... I can see how the vaccine mandate plays into it, but rather than debate vaccines here can we keep it related to skiing? Idk just an idea 😐 this forumused to be a nice break from everything Covid 24/7
 

abc

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He is partially correct. The vaccines are barely effective at reducing chances of infection or transmission. They are highly effective at preventing severe disease. Previously, vaccines were effective at preventing infection, but Omicron and Delta changed that.
That's not what I read.

2 doses of vaccine reduced infection and transmission on Delta by something like 50%, at least within 6 months of the 2nd dose, fresh booster restore that back up to something like 70%, whilst waning as time goes by.

The vaccine seem quite useless against Omicron infection, the exception is booster shot seem to reduce infection for the first 3 months post booster.
 

drjeff

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That's not what I read.

2 doses of vaccine reduced infection and transmission on Delta by something like 50%, at least within 6 months of the 2nd dose, fresh booster restore that back up to something like 70%, whilst waning as time goes by.

The vaccine seem quite useless against Omicron infection, the exception is booster shot seem to reduce infection for the first 3 months post booster.

The apparent reality that Omicron has much less severe effects to the overwhelming majority of folks (both vaccinated for sure and even the unvaccinated) may ultimately end up counteracting the higher transmission factor that Omicron sure seems to have.

And if the net result is more folks with the combo of natural and vaccine induced antibodies, which seems to be the "best" option, that may not be a bad thing at all. Time will tell
 

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Well, I am going to go see how bad Vail sucks tomorrow when I drive up to Crotched and ski for a while. Web cams did not look TOO crowded today, and my NE Value pass is not blacked out for Crotched, Sunapee, Wildcat, or Attitash. Just the (snobby) :rolleyes: Vermont areas.
 

KustyTheKlown

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He doesn't understand how VAERS works. Ten seconds of googling explains it. But if I'm feeling bored today I might add another 50 or 60 deaths to the system. You don't even need to be a member of the medical community to do so.
Seriously, it’s all self reported. Sundayriverrat is a consistent fucking moron.
 

RichT

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Hunter (Vail) sucked today, I thought they were limiting the amount of tickets sold? Yeah sure they were, the line was out the door and down in the parking lot full of people waiting to buy tickets! Place turned into an ice skating rink by 1030.
 

Mainer

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I started the vax talk, I am sorry about that. Mandating a vaccine To work at attic at for 20 yr olds that the virus doesn’t effect Is kinda stupid when ur hard up.
But attitash summit triple broke today, So they had to open yankee. Not running yankee during a vacation week is insane. The triple and yankee should be open every day, full stop.
Triple at wildcat broke today. Not running a lift to top of wildcat is unacceptable during vacation week and everyday. Sad sad display. So embarrassing that 2 of the biggest mountains in nh arent running top to bottom runs during a vacation week. The biggest ski company in America runs these two mountains. Pathetic
 

machski

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I started the vax talk, I am sorry about that. Mandating a vaccine To work at attic at for 20 yr olds that the virus doesn’t effect Is kinda stupid when ur hard up.
But attitash summit triple broke today, So they had to open yankee. Not running yankee during a vacation week is insane. The triple and yankee should be open every day, full stop.
Triple at wildcat broke today. Not running a lift to top of wildcat is unacceptable during vacation week and everyday. Sad sad display. So embarrassing that 2 of the biggest mountains in nh arent running top to bottom runs during a vacation week. The biggest ski company in America runs these two mountains. Pathetic
Yup. Everyone likes to hammer on the old ASC now, but they NEVER pulled any of this crap, even in the cash strapped final years of their existence.
 

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Why the fuck is crotched closing at 230 tomorrow?
Really? I skied today til about 11:30. No lines really, basically shit conditions as expected. Not terrible. Couple runs from the top. 3 down low but, of course, one closed for racing👎. Took a couple runs off the double, decent snow but a ride took 20 minutes with multiple stops. 2:30? Really lame.
 
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