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VAIL SUCKS

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While absolutely still a Hail Mary (most change.org or similar campaigns are), this probably is the best way to challenge the Vail problem with it's focus on blaming Vail as inadequate stewards of facilities on public lands and having a negative impact on local communities.

And maybe that's how things should be approached here in New Hampshire. Get enough local business and public scrutiny of Vail operations on public lands. State lands in the case of Sunapee. Federal lands in the case of Wildcat. Break the leases and return the recreation to the state.

How cool would that be? A Cannon, Sunapee, Wildcat pass with affordable NH resident pricing and competitive regional pricing. There would be good affordable skiing with reasonable driving access from virtually anywhere in the State. All three areas just about the skiing and mountain recreation activities. No resort bullshit.

I don't think you could call yourself a loyal granite stater and not buy that pass.
Yes, Cannon, Sunape, Wildcat on one pass. That would be good. But let’s have a reasonable rate for us MA folks as well......we love you NH.
 

thetrailboss

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Next year will be the barometer. They sold an insane amount of passes this season. They're guaranteed a whole bunch more pass sales next year with the 7Springs buy out. Just bought out that entire market.

So as long as they keep showing net gain in pass sales with "disciplined" exoenses, the stock shines. That's what matters
Remember that this year's "sales increases" came as a result of a pretty significant discount.
 

Edd

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Smellytele

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Yes, Cannon, Sunape, Wildcat on one pass. That would be good. But let’s have a reasonable rate for us MA folks as well......we love you NH.
I had the Cannon/ Sunapee NH residents pass for a few years. Only skied Sunapee a few times as it wasn't much closer for me than Cannon at the time. Really never liked Sunapee. Back then it wasn't well maintained (but they did have a lenient trail open policy) and then after when run be the Okemo folks they groomed the fuck out of it and it seemed if the trail wasn't groomed it wasn't open. Haven't been since Fail has been running it.
 

machski

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Wife and I are at Crotched today. I cannot say this is the best performing Vail mountain in NH. Based just on what I saw and skied earlier December and what they have open now, Sunapee is far out performing here. Crotched is currently disjointed, cannot easily ski between Rocket terrain and West Double (basically have to skate across base from Rocket to Double. And now it looks like West Double is on MX hold and Rocket line growing. With the race training, can't believe Valley Quad not spinning. If the new years forecast pans, not sure Crotched will be able to stay open. A lot of thin cover sections already.
 

chuckstah

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Wife and I are at Crotched today. I cannot say this is the best performing Vail mountain in NH. Based just on what I saw and skied earlier December and what they have open now, Sunapee is far out performing here. Crotched is currently disjointed, cannot easily ski between Rocket terrain and West Double (basically have to skate across base from Rocket to Double. And now it looks like West Double is on MX hold and Rocket line growing. With the race training, can't believe Valley Quad not spinning. If the new years forecast pans, not sure Crotched will be able to stay open. A lot of thin cover sections already.
I don't think Valley has been inspected. Park lift certainly hasn't been. Or at this point it may just be that they basically didn't hire any lifties with 20 something openings. I guess nobody wants to work outside for $13 an hour.
 
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