VAIL SUCKS

[abc]

White Ribbon of Death. Eastern term for limited early season terrain availability

Not just eastern any more. Many western skiers found out what that means this season.

 

[So Inclined]

As nuts as the base area chairs were at Hunter (after 915 - they were OK earlier), the F chair never had more than an 8 minute line for a single and the North lift was under a minute into the afternoon. I got 13 runs in from 845-1 and only waited in that crazy line once,.after stopping for food/bathroom from 1030-11. That 11 am line was about 25 min for a single so I did not come back to the base tip I was at a stage where I was ready to call it quits if the line was bad.

Makes sense there were huge crowds given what a let down holiday skiing had been, that it had just snowed big in NYC/NJ, and that Sunday is gonna be crappy weather for skiing. This was the day for everyone to come out.

F chair wait was way longer than 8 minutes throughout the day.

 

[Ski2LiveLive2Ski]

F chair wait was way longer than 8 minutes throughout the day.

Not for a single the 7 times I rode it 930-12. Given I rode the Flyer 3 times too, there was no way I could have gotten in 13 runs by 1, and taken a lunch break, if those 7 runs lines were much longer than that

 

[KustyTheKlown]

lol. i went to stratton today. i skied 30,000 vertical from 8:30 - 2:15. there were lines, but nothing remotely comparable to that. and singles line was never more than 3 minutes tops for ursa or snowbowl. lol 'epic'

 

[Ski2LiveLive2Ski]

lol. i went to stratton today. i skied 30,000 vertical from 8:30 - 2:15. there were lines, but nothing remotely comparable to that. and singles line was never more than 3 minutes tops for ursa or snowbowl. lol 'epic'

It was certainly crazy crowded at Hunter no doubt. And I won't be there on a Sat again til crowds die down in March.. I'm just saying only morons waited in lines like those pictured more than once.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

only morons own epic passes.

 

[gittist]

White Ribbon of Death. Eastern term for limited early season terrain availability

Thank you for the definition. It seems that term is applicable to everywhere on a weekend whether it's early season or not!

 

[Edd]

some dude went missing on xmas at Northstar and is likely upside down dead in a tree well. a competent skier who managed the local surefoot, but was new to tahoe apparently. i caught wind of it from an unofficial networks or snowbrains post a few days ago. this is obviously tragic. but last night a friend who is a casual skier and former sf/tahoe person posted to Instagram ranting and raving at Northstar for promoting the recent big historic snow and big-time conditions (assuming they've even dug out and the roads are open?). i went to the northstar post and found the comments almost universally piling on them about promoting the big snow and not mentioning the missing skier. i hate vail as much as the next guy here, but i didn't agree with these commenters, who seemed to think the business of being a ski resort should stop because one patron has tragically been lost and is probably dead. skiing is inherently risky, and we all acknowledge that legally every time we ride a lift with our pass or buy a day ticket. this fella went out by himself in a huge storm and he had a bad accident, but i dont think northstar/vail needs to stop their business in its tracks over it after a giant storm in a holiday week

Found.

Body of skier last seen at Northstar on Christmas Day found after two-week search

The body of Rory Angelotta, who went missing Christmas Day at Northstar, was found on Saturday outside the ski resort.

www.rgj.com

 

[catskillman]

Vail has time to spend on this: While I agree it they pretty much plagarized the logo and name. a letter might of just worked to the owners to paint over the logo. There are many other businesses up here that use "Hunter Mountain" in their name.

$ spent on lawyers, not mountain staffing and improvements.

Hunter Mountain ski resorts suing over name and logo

The Hunter Mountain ski resort is suing a nearby lodge owner, contending in federal court...

www.timesunion.com

 

[PAabe]

The logo I can see, but I can't see how you can enforce trademark on "Hunter Mountain" when it literally is the geographic name of the mountain, which existed long before the "Hunter Mountain Ski Bowl" was there. There also is Hunter the town. Hopefully the lodge has a good lawyer.

Also who tf cares obviously nobody is mixing up some little lodge for the biggest ski operation in the Catskills - what damage has been done? I mean, yeah tell them to stop using your logo, but filing suit?

 

[Ski2LiveLive2Ski]

If you are going to file a suit over the logo, you throw in the claim over the name too. The use in juxtaposition adds to the confusion. And I guarantee they asked the lodge to cease and desist before filing suit.

And I would care as a consumer of hotels in the area, as it might be some rat trap that I would be fooled into thinking was a decent place by its attempt to present itself as being associated with the mountain and with Vail.

And if you don't enforce trademarks vigilantly your right to the name is weakened ("diluted" is the term of art in Trademark Law)

 

[jimmywilson69]

They've diluted their name on their own by their consistently poor product in the east

 

[IceEidolon]

Vail has time to spend on this: While I agree it they pretty much plagarized the logo and name. a letter might of just worked to the owners to paint over the logo. There are many other businesses up here that use "Hunter Mountain" in their name.

$ spent on lawyers, not mountain staffing and improvements.

Hunter Mountain ski resorts suing over name and logo

The Hunter Mountain ski resort is suing a nearby lodge owner, contending in federal court...

www.timesunion.com

I think I'd rather work shorthanded than have a legal department help me make snow.

 

[Edd]

When you drive into the town of Stowe, doesn’t the town sign match the logo of the ski area? I’ve always wondered about that. Maybe I’m misremembering it.

 

[faceplant]

now there lifts are falling apart

Chair Detaches from Wildcat Lift

Photo credit: Mic Murphy A triple chair fell near the base of Wildcat Mountain’s Snowcat lift this afternoon, sending one person to the hospital. The lift involved is a 1974 Riblet servicing …

liftblog.com

 

[abc]

if you don't enforce trademarks vigilantly your right to the name is weakened ("diluted" is the term of art in Trademark Law)

But since the previous owner of Hunter had allowed the lodge to use that name and logo for however long, wouldn't that trademark already diluted for years?

 

[thetrailboss]

Vail has time to spend on this: While I agree it they pretty much plagarized the logo and name. a letter might of just worked to the owners to paint over the logo. There are many other businesses up here that use "Hunter Mountain" in their name.

$ spent on lawyers, not mountain staffing and improvements.

Hunter Mountain ski resorts suing over name and logo

The Hunter Mountain ski resort is suing a nearby lodge owner, contending in federal court...

www.timesunion.com

They tried the same thing at Park City before the negative PR became too much…

 

[thetrailboss]

When you drive into the town of Stowe, doesn’t the town sign match the logo of the ski area? I’ve always wondered about that. Maybe I’m misremembering it.

Yes it does. That’s next.

 

[Ski2LiveLive2Ski]

Today at Hunter.............I have NEVER seen it this bad.View attachment 52634

When you drive into the town of Stowe, doesn’t the town sign match the logo of the ski area? I’ve always wondered about that. Maybe I’m misremembering it.

Likely there is an agreement allowing that

But since the previous owner of Hunter had allowed the lodge to use that name and logo for however long, wouldn't that trademark already diluted for years?

Perhaps there was an agreement allowing that which Vail declined to renew because it does not meet the standards Vail sets for lodging that uses its brands

 

[ericfromMA/NH/VT]

Recent quote from me.

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