VAIL SUCKS

[drjeff]

The oxy family built the lodge

More like the EB-5 $$ built that lodge with the Sackler/Oxy $$ more or less used primarily for Peak debt service needs

 

[drjeff]

I'm bored at work so why not rant about Mt Snow? Before the new Carinthia lodge there was a temporary "lodge" set up at the base of the lift. It was very simple with a bathroom/limited grille food and limited seating. But the lodge was a place for teens to go and hang out. There were gaming consoles, couches and "cool" music playing. Even though I was too old I thought it was good that kids had their own clubhouse on the mountain away from the family lodge scene. Personally , I liked that there was mountain entertainment outside of the boomer staples of accoustic guitair or classic rock. Then Vail built that gaudy new lodge and tore the old scene down. Which was a shame b/c the entire point of Carinthia (imo) was to draw park riders in from all over the northeast. Whatever. I'm outta steam. Back to work.

That wasn't a "temporary" lodge, that was the original Carinthia lodge from decades ago before Carinthia was even a part of Mount Snow proper

 

[jaytrem]

That wasn't a "temporary" lodge, that was the original Carinthia lodge from decades ago before Carinthia was even a part of Mount Snow proper

Everything is temporary.

 

[2Planker]

More like the EB-5 $$ built that lodge with the Sackler/Oxy $$ more or less used primarily for Peak debt service needs

Tufts Med Cntr. just changed the name of the Sackler School of Biomedical Sciences….

 

[thetrailboss]

Tufts Med Cntr. just changed the name of the Sackler School of Biomedical Sciences….

GTFOOH. Seriously?

 

[jimmck]

Tufts Med Cntr. just changed the name of the Sackler School of Biomedical Sciences….

Was that not announced over 3 years ago?

Tufts University to Remove Sackler Name from Medical School Facilities and Programs

Tufts University will remove the Sackler name from all programs and facilities on its Boston health sciences campus and create an endowment to support prevention and treatment of substance abuse and addiction.

now.tufts.edu

 

[2Planker]

Was that not announced over 3 years ago?

Tufts University to Remove Sackler Name from Medical School Facilities and Programs

Tufts University will remove the Sackler name from all programs and facilities on its Boston health sciences campus and create an endowment to support prevention and treatment of substance abuse and addiction.

now.tufts.edu

Yes. But it took them quite a while to change all the signage and campus maps. There were something like 5 different Sackler buildings and centers on the Boston campus. The Sackler name over the front door of the original (1984) Sackler Biomedical Library building came down about 2 years ago…

 

[thetrailboss]

Yes. But it took them quite a while to change all the signage and campus maps. There were something like 5 different Sackler buildings and centers on the Boston campus. The Sackler name over the front door of the original (1984) Sackler Biomedical Library building came down about 2 years ago…

Good for them. That’s a very bad look. No way around it. We almost had the “Kozlowski” Library at Middlebury. As in Tyco’s Kozlowski.

 

[FBGM]

Peak built and had the plan for that Lodge. Which I thought was odd since they were so park heavy and that lodge does not fit that bill. Idk how they originally thought they were paying for that. Plus there was more stuff planned in that area. Vail I’m sure loves it. Fits their idea, another main nice base and paid parking grab, and the park scene getting dialed back.

 

[urungus]

Good for them. That’s a very bad look. No way around it. We almost had the “Kozlowski” Library at Middlebury. As in Tyco’s Kozlowski.

So will Tufts be returning the money they received for naming the buildings ?

 

[thetrailboss]

So will Tufts be returning the money they received for naming the buildings ?

I'm sure we know the answer to that.....

 

[Keelhauled]

I'm sure we know the answer to that.....

Oh no! The opioid billionaires might see a poor return on their investment! Won't someone think of the poor opioid billionaires?

 

[jimmywilson69]

Nothing like seeing the exact same type of picture from the vail resorts touting their spring cleanup days. Literally everything the do is soulless...

Also it's a shame that the ski areas are such a mess after the season that actually makes me most upset...

 

[LuckyStrike]

That wasn't a "temporary" lodge, that was the original Carinthia lodge from decades ago before Carinthia was even a part of Mount Snow proper

I’ve learned a lot. I’m still right. The new lodge sucks

 

[urungus]

Oh no! The opioid billionaires might see a poor return on their investment! Won't someone think of the poor opioid billionaires?

Will be interesting to see if they go down this route …

A Virginia lawyer is demanding University of Richmond pay $3.6 billion after removing family member's name from law school

T.C. Williams Law School was named after a tobacco business owner who owned 25 to 40 enslaved people, according to the university, which changed the name of the law school last year.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[bigbob]

Everything is temporary.

Like Loon's 2008 South Peak lodge, now 15 years old!

 

[AdironRider]

Vail Resorts Reports 22/23 Skier Visits Are Up 6.1% Over Last Season - SnowBrains

Vail Resorts today reported certain ski season metrics for the comparative periods from the beginning of the ski season through April 16 2023

snowbrains.com

Some tidbits for you:

• Season-to-date total skier visits were up 6.1% compared to the prior year season-to-date period.
• Season-to-date total lift ticket revenue, including an allocated portion of season pass revenue for each applicable period, was up 4.0% compared to the prior year season-to-date period.
• Season-to-date ski school revenue was up 26.4% and dining revenue was up 35.3% compared to the prior year season-to-date period. Retail/rental revenue for North American resort and ski area store locations was up 21.8% compared to the prior year season-to-date period.

Ski school, and notably F&B, are pretty much a straight up "you don't know what you are talking about" to this thread.

 

[MikeDeJ]

Vail Resorts Reports 22/23 Skier Visits Are Up 6.1% Over Last Season - SnowBrains

Vail Resorts today reported certain ski season metrics for the comparative periods from the beginning of the ski season through April 16 2023

snowbrains.com

Some tidbits for you:

• Season-to-date total skier visits were up 6.1% compared to the prior year season-to-date period.
• Season-to-date total lift ticket revenue, including an allocated portion of season pass revenue for each applicable period, was up 4.0% compared to the prior year season-to-date period.
• Season-to-date ski school revenue was up 26.4% and dining revenue was up 35.3% compared to the prior year season-to-date period. Retail/rental revenue for North American resort and ski area store locations was up 21.8% compared to the prior year season-to-date period.

Ski school, and notably F&B, are pretty much a straight up "you don't know what you are talking about" to this thread.

I really have a distrust in Vails numbers, not they are cooking the books but they cherry pick numbers and twist them.

Is dining revenue them same as all of the F&B or just full service restaurants?

Skier visits are up, but if they are all season pass holders....

Season to date total lift ticket revenue including an allocated portion of season pass revenue, that number can be made to what ever you want? Not even sure what that means!!

 

[SkiingInABlueDream]

Just a smokescreen to fluff wall St...

 

[joshua segal]

Vail Resorts Reports 22/23 Skier Visits Are Up 6.1% Over Last Season - SnowBrains

Vail Resorts today reported certain ski season metrics for the comparative periods from the beginning of the ski season through April 16 2023

snowbrains.com

Some tidbits for you:

• Season-to-date total skier visits were up 6.1% compared to the prior year season-to-date period.
• Season-to-date total lift ticket revenue, including an allocated portion of season pass revenue for each applicable period, was up 4.0% compared to the prior year season-to-date period.
• Season-to-date ski school revenue was up 26.4% and dining revenue was up 35.3% compared to the prior year season-to-date period. Retail/rental revenue for North American resort and ski area store locations was up 21.8% compared to the prior year season-to-date period.

Ski school, and notably F&B, are pretty much a straight up "you don't know what you are talking about" to this thread.

Also, the dividend paid on their stock went up.

Regarding the increased dining revenue: I suspect that is just a rebound following the relaxing of the Covid-19 years' restrictions.