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VAIL SUCKS

kingslug

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There was a Big change when she took over.
Much more opened earlier..and yes early season was great but she opened stuff that looked more like what SB opens. I spent more time there last year.
 

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There was a Big change when she took over.
Much more opened earlier..and yes early season was great but she opened stuff that looked more like what SB opens. I spent more time there last year.
"That wasn't her. It was all me. You can thank me, and you're welcome!!!!!"

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Has it been that many? Belinda started as COO last year. Geoff, who went to Aspen, was in the role before her for four years. Am I missing someone?
Pete Sonntag. It was more than 3 years but still a lot of shuffling for a position that should be the pinnacle of one’s career.
 

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Much as we have seen recently with POWDR, Vail too will shed properties. For it is not a matter of it, but when. Hopefully they start with Wildcat.
I imagine that would tank their stock price and be a death spiral.
 

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I imagine that would tank their stock price and be a death spiral.

Not necessarily. Especially selling off a small, underperforming asset like Wildcat.

I mentioned J&J prior. Large multinational companies buy and sell businesses all of the time and the impact on the stock price is short lived.

Now if Vail were forced to sell off a Park City or Whistler; that would be real damaging to their brand and share values.
 

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exactly but in the case of Vail the entire reason they keep those places is the locals pad the season pass numbers. Selling Attitash and Wildcat would be a net negative of passholders and therefore potential revenue.

Those places would be better owned by a private entity or a much smaller corporate operation that understands their place in the northeast ski hierarchy
 

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Much as we have seen recently with POWDR, Vail too will shed properties. For it is not a matter of it, but when. Hopefully they start with Wildcat.
And yet Vail is continuing to expand. They are buying Laax in Switzerland. That's not a molehill.
 

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Isn't frosting a cup cake the same as making and laying snow?? just wondering...:unsure:
 

joshua segal

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Likely the exact opposite.
The investing community goes quarter-to-quarter. The spring and summer quarters tend to lose and the stock price routinely falls in these months. Many analysts have sell-recommendations on ski-industry stocks due to long term worries about the effect of climate change, but that's an industry-wide problem - not an "only Vail" issue
 

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We were looking into mountain coasters in UT. What a ripoff the Park City one is! $39.00 to ride the mountain coaster each time.
Snowbird lets you ride all day for $71.00

$39 for one ride is hilarious. Snowbird does a 5-8 unlimited activity deal for like $50. Also a very nice perk at the Bird is if you hike your ass up there you can take Peruvian or the tram down the mountain for free.
 

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$39 for one ride is hilarious. Snowbird does a 5-8 unlimited activity deal for like $50. Also a very nice perk at the Bird is if you hike your ass up there you can take Peruvian or the tram down the mountain for free.
All part of the Epic strategy. Buy a pass, not day tickets,I imagine. And FWIW I believe that PC’s Mountain Coaster is significantly longer than Snowbird’s.
 
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BenedictGomez

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I believe that PC’s Mountain Coaster is significantly longer than Snowbird’s.

Park City's mountain coaster is way bigger than Snowbird's coaster. It's so long you can see it from pretty far away on 224. That said, I almost seriously injured myself on Snowbirds coaster, so length isn't the be all end all in terms of mountain coaster extremism.
 
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