Interesting development at Mount Snow - they said on Twitter they surveyed comments on social media and made the decision to run both summit lifts during the week, as opposed to one summit lift and the Canyon lift. So maybe Vail not totally tone deaf. One can only hope.
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VAIL SUCKS
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RichT
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Your last sentence, answered the sentence before it.
Smellytele
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No ASC were they idiots who put it in.
Yes ASC installed it, and RAN IT EVERY DAY
ctdubl07
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Next will come a return to running Canyon due to newbies inability to navigate Cascade to the Canyon serviced more moderate terrain.
(re: prior post, I think yesterday's manageable crowds owe a lot it being a typical Super Bowl day combined with snow storm driving evacuation. It was a great day! Saturday was lunacy, didn't even bother going out.
I don't have a problem with the Yankee other than the triple should have gone HSQ as well. The topgraphy of the mountain pretty much supports a mid Mountain lift. Stuff up high is too steep or gets skied off too quickly for intermediate skiers. I can see why ASC didn't replace the triple at the time. It was only an 11-12 year old lift and long, slow fixed grip lifts were still pretty normal. But now Attitash is pretty much the only hold out except for Smuggs and Magic for 1500+ vertical mountains who don't have a high speed quad on a main lift that length
Attitash posted on Facebook they would be running yankee and Abenaki during vacation week and midweek for rest of season. Then they deleted post. I was skiing there yesterday and it was cold, couldn’t bring myself to go to the attitash side. If they don’t open lifts midweek next week, shit is going to hit the fan. Just the green learning center would be the only accessible lower/ intermediate trail for the families during school vacation week. Imagine renting a slope side Abenaki mansion to find out it’s not ski out this year. This will be the icing on the vail sucks cake
Surely They can manage to find staff for the vacation week for the lifts. With all the travel restrictions Attitash is one of the best options for MA travelers with all the accommodations and NH seemingly being a little easier to visit. We are hoping to do one midweek day, but am waiting to see lift status before committing.
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I disagree. You may get more runs in but Hunter's runs have ~3x the vertical. And Frost gets some lines and has less alternate lifts to avoid them than Hunter does.
asnowmobiler
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JF/BB are within 10/15 from my house and it's not worth it.
Edd
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Interesting how they’re not grooming Middle Catapult, Alley Cat, Cheetah, at Wildcat. It was primo there today.
They haven't made snow on any of them yet. Very rare for an eastern ski area to groom something that doesn't have a man made base.
It's unfortunate because Alley Cat is a favorite groomer of mine to rip at Cat. Having it plus Cheetah and lower Catapult groomed plus the Bobcat chair open would really help take pressure off the quad
pinion
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If/when Bobcat comes back online maybe they will get back to snowmaking and grooming? I actually prefer Catapult ungroomed but anyone that's been on Lynx and Polecat during the weekend knows grooming alternate trails is necessary to handle insane crowding on those trails.
Right now most of the weekend crowd views Wildcat like this:
Lately the kids and I have been enjoying dropping off Lynx at Midway and running Catacomb/Panther or Alley Cat. Nice and quiet. Almost nobody in the middle of the mountain the past few weekends.
Pretty cool what you did with that map there. On point for the current situation.
I definitely prefer middle Catapult ungroomed, but not lower. It's just too flat to develop decent bumps.
The whole Bobcat chair pod is unrealized as a great intermediate / family pod IMO. Maybe Vail invests in it properly eventually. I'd love to see the lift upgraded to be a bit faster with a carpet load like Shawnee did with their triple. It's a slow ass lift for such short vertical and that's why it's underutilized
Do that and offer consistent and EARLY season snowmaking on Alley Cat, Lower Catapult, Bobcat, Cheetah and Kitten. Leave Copycat, Lower Wildcat and Wildcat Pitch as natural bump trails.
I think all of that would take some pressure off the quad and Polecat and Lynx trails.
If they did upgrade the lift, that pod would be where my early season focus would be instead of trying to open the quad and Lynx first. Just open that chair and Bobcat trail first. The early season diehards would make the extra walk up to the Bobcat chair. Then tie Bobcat up to Middle Wildcat and Upper Catapult to open the summit
I too was at wildcat today and yes it is skiing fantastic, I think alot has to do with the natural snowpack being dominant. Place is a mogul fest and I totally loved it but we will pay dearly come spring or a thaw. The cats gone feral get it while its good!
thebigo
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Nice map pinion.
Attitash has blown every snowmaking trail deep in time for vacation week. Priority should be to switch the crew back up to the cat.
Bobcat should be early and late season. It is far enough from c lot, they could set up some picnic tables and a grill, sell food and beers up there in the spring.
Crotch has been spectacular the last couple evenings. The bump course they built should be built every year.
I reached out today and both yankee and abenaki are scheduled to run vacation week.
Attitash has blown every snowmaking trail deep in time for vacation week. Priority should be to switch the crew back up to the cat.
Bobcat should be early and late season. It is far enough from c lot, they could set up some picnic tables and a grill, sell food and beers up there in the spring.
Crotch has been spectacular the last couple evenings. The bump course they built should be built every year.
I reached out today and both yankee and abenaki are scheduled to run vacation week.
Edd
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I agree and was thinking yesterday the winds, combined with cold temps, have caused the natural terrain to fill in nicely.
No way wildcat is doing snowmaking after presidents week. It will be a good excuse for them to close early when the snow melts out. They will say something along the line of wish we could stay open longer but Mother Nature is not cooperating. Attitash is probably hopefully going to try to make the snowmakers lifties for the rest of the year. I should probably go skiing right now
drjeff
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If one wants to believe in the 10 day forecast, looks like the vast majority of ski country is going to get into the end of February with no real melting, and likely multiple refreshing storms as well. Heck, even the long range 90 days trends forecast is predicting a "cool" Spring for the Northeast, FWIW
I think the reality is, and not just for the Vail Resorts, that short of Killington hitting Superstar, and maybe a couple of select other resorts/trails, if not already done, widespread snowmaking will be done in the next few days.
Mother nature has been very good to the Northeast Ski Areas since basically MLK Day weekend, and arguably since right after the Christmas Day monsoon
I think the reality is, and not just for the Vail Resorts, that short of Killington hitting Superstar, and maybe a couple of select other resorts/trails, if not already done, widespread snowmaking will be done in the next few days.
Mother nature has been very good to the Northeast Ski Areas since basically MLK Day weekend, and arguably since right after the Christmas Day monsoon
