VAIL SUCKS

[kbroderick]

I'd also probably get arrested for punching Katz in the balls after he told me the annual snowmaking budget for Wildcat.

If the jury of your peers skis, that should be a pretty easy one to get dismissed.

 

[LuckyStrike]

God help me (even after reading this thread for years) that ticket write off promotion is making me seriously think of going Epic next year.

 

[thetrailboss]

Haha

The one thing I learned working in the ski business? If you want to ski a lot, don't take a management job in the ski business. The two years I did it, were my lowest day counts as an adult.

"Awww, come on now! You know that is not true!"

 

[AdironRider]

I know plenty of ski area managers that ski a bunch, but for plenty more its sort of a psychological thing where you pass over many days when its right there in front of you, just because you know you can tomorrow easily. Then before you know it, the season is over and you are another year older. Jaded locals and such.

 

[jimmywilson69]

I be tat's him skiing a green that he had the photographer lay on the snow to make it look steep.

 

[deadheadskier]

I know plenty of ski area managers that ski a bunch, but for plenty more its sort of a psychological thing where you pass over many days when its right there in front of you, just because you know you can tomorrow easily. Then before you know it, the season is over and you are another year older. Jaded locals and such.

This was on the F&B side of things. Both ski areas were so perpetually understaffed in F&B that these were six day a week, 70+ hours per week jobs from December through early March.

Now folks in Marketing or Sales? They always had 5 day a week, 45 hour jobs and could also break free for lunch turns.

My experience managing F&B at beach resorts was similar. You barely had the time to enjoy the vacation destination you lived in.

Doing similar jobs in cities with a larger pool of workers to draw from was a much better work / life balance.

 

[BenedictGomez]

The local pass is only going up 26 bucks. Thats half as much as last years increase, in fact that's less than inflation I think.

It's more than inflation, Vail kept its promise.

 

[oldfartrider]

It's more than inflation, Vail kept its promise.

Inflation is more than 3.3%, what world are you living in?

 

[BenedictGomez]

Inflation is more than 3.3%, what world are you living in?

Uhhhh......I mean, inflation is something we literally know, we don't have to speculate or guess.

YE25 inflation ran at 2.7%, and during January 2026 when I presume these figures were worked YoY inflation rate was 2.4%.

From the BLS.gov website:

 

[oldfartrider]

Uhhhh......I mean, inflation is something we literally know, we don't have to speculate or guess.

YE25 inflation ran at 2.7%, and during January 2026 when I presume these figures were worked YoY inflation rate was 2.4%.

From the BLS.gov website:
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Fake news

 

[jaytrem]

All I know is the email they sent out makes it sound like the price of my 14 year olds passes would be lower than last year. In reality the price is going up. Very annoying and deceiving. FUV!

 

[BenedictGomez]

Fake news

 

[BenedictGomez]

Very annoying and deceiving.

That's the Vail Resorts business model.

 

[thetrailboss]

I be tat's him skiing a green that he had the photographer lay on the snow to make it look steep.

Oh no doubt!

 

[Ski2LiveLive2Ski]

Still the best deal in skiing other than the Indy Pass + especially for us license plate club members

 

[chuckstah]

A friend did one run at the cat today, and off to Attitash. Said it was decent spring skiing there. Will Wildcat make it to April?

 

[BenedictGomez]

As expected, Vail lowers earnings again.

This was an easy call based on their previous, rather optimistic lowered guidance.

Fiscal Year 2026 Guidance

Commenting on Fiscal 2026 guidance, Katz said "Due to the persistent, historically challenging weather conditions in the Rockies, which continued to limit terrain availability, the Company is reducing its fiscal 2026 guidance. While we are lowering our estimates for the fiscal year, given the unprecedented weather in the Rockies, the impact from conditions was mitigated by our advance commitment strategy and resource transformation efforts. We are proud of the resilience of the business model and execution of our teams at our resorts that are delivering on the experience for our guests."

 

[thetrailboss]

Yeah, here is POWDER's article on Vail's report:

https://www.powder.com/news/vail-resorts-skier-visits-revenue-drop?link_source=ta_first_comment&taid=69af45d3c9ecb00001451a14&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawQcXRhleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFtQ2NDbHBhdjFjeXNaaHVpc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHuBFyVwMKalbcrr6SLZbKLMIwJXtUQqOWuLWenHYg0wPBhYLp9qL4JkEy2-6_aem_Jw1-XOTAcit-lD8oqC5OfA

 

[raisingarizona]

This was on the F&B side of things. Both ski areas were so perpetually understaffed in F&B that these were six day a week, 70+ hours per week jobs from December through early March.

Now folks in Marketing or Sales? They always had 5 day a week, 45 hour jobs and could also break free for lunch turns.

My experience managing F&B at beach resorts was similar. You barely had the time to enjoy the vacation destination you lived in.

Doing similar jobs in cities with a larger pool of workers to draw from was a much better work / life balance.

You worked a day job in a ski town? Ya, you fucked up right there.