gmcunni
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Only 1 of them needed medical attention, i guess this really is being over-blown.
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Puck it
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Rescued from rushing water
Stonington, Conn. (WTNH) - Six people had to be rescued from their vehicle after they got stuck in rushing flood waters in Old Mystic.
The people were driving through high water on Main Street/Route 27 in Old Mystic when the car stalled and they became trapped.
Fireighters and dive team members from Old Mystic were called in to rescue the six.
The people were first taken to a nearby building, then were brought to safety. One person needed medical help and had to be carried out on a stretcher.
Pretty stupid if you ask me trying to cross a flooded road!!! Has nothing to do with the media over-hyping of loading the Ark. They should have had one of these.
Stonington, Conn. (WTNH) - Six people had to be rescued from their vehicle after they got stuck in rushing flood waters in Old Mystic.
The people were driving through high water on Main Street/Route 27 in Old Mystic when the car stalled and they became trapped.
Fireighters and dive team members from Old Mystic were called in to rescue the six.
The people were first taken to a nearby building, then were brought to safety. One person needed medical help and had to be carried out on a stretcher.
Pretty stupid if you ask me trying to cross a flooded road!!! Has nothing to do with the media over-hyping of loading the Ark. They should have had one of these.
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Since some of us are experiencing that "PITA" for ourselves today, it might have been more tactful to save your observations for some other time sir. Just my 2 cents of course.
I don't think Bill is trying to downplay conditions during any particular event whether it affects you directly or not. Obviously any kind of flood or blizzard is traumatic and deserves due attention--all of our concern goes out to any of you on this board being affected. What I get from his comment is the generalization that every time periods of floods or snowstorms (ie Mid Atlantic this year) rolls around, the media always makes it sound like the end of the world and/or they come up with cutsie phrases that tend to misrepresent things to a degree--and as a weatherguy myself, I can't stand it either. We'll always have floods--we'll always have snowstorms and blizzards...and their destruction will always impact someone, somewhere, sometime. Just because it affects town A rather than town B doesn't make it worse than other storms--each of them are bad in their own way. And it goes without saying that a PITA storm for some is a showstopper for others, obviously--I'm sure Bill empathizes with you on that. We all just want the media to simply report the storm and impact without the cute little catch phrases, that's all.
Good luck to everyone out there with this flooding--I'm probably heading out later to sandbag a local Boys & Girls club.
Good luck to everyone out there with this flooding--I'm probably heading out later to sandbag a local Boys & Girls club.
WJenness
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A former co-worker of mine is being evacuated from her place somewhere in RI (Cranston I think).
Apparently one dam has already burst, leaving just one way out of their neighborhood. Officials are saying that a larger dam that holds more water back is likely to go today or tomorrow.
She lives on the third floor of a three family house, so while her stuff is not likely to be in danger, getting in / out of her house / having power / plumbing is certainly a very large risk.
I'm concerned about the Merrimack River that runs RIGHT behind my apartment building. NOAA is forecasting it to crest at 56.1' (Flood stage is 52') sometime tomorrow night. I live on the second floor and my parking lot is pretty far above the river, but I don't know what it'll do to our power situation in the building...
I'd say that 'Flood fears sweeping the region' is pretty accurate. I'll agree that "Snowmageddon" was pretty silly, however.
-w
Apparently one dam has already burst, leaving just one way out of their neighborhood. Officials are saying that a larger dam that holds more water back is likely to go today or tomorrow.
She lives on the third floor of a three family house, so while her stuff is not likely to be in danger, getting in / out of her house / having power / plumbing is certainly a very large risk.
I'm concerned about the Merrimack River that runs RIGHT behind my apartment building. NOAA is forecasting it to crest at 56.1' (Flood stage is 52') sometime tomorrow night. I live on the second floor and my parking lot is pretty far above the river, but I don't know what it'll do to our power situation in the building...
I'd say that 'Flood fears sweeping the region' is pretty accurate. I'll agree that "Snowmageddon" was pretty silly, however.
-w
Agreed--Snowmageddon was definately silly--crafty but silly. And with the heavy rain events stacking up, the headlines are more applicable now than they were during the first one or two.
Good luck!!
Well of course. I understand and accept all that perfectly well an hour after the fact. I'm just saying that it should be predictable that we will not all have that reasoned of a response initially while we are still experiencing the event. Thanks for helping and good luck to all, including the OP, no hard feelings intended.
drjeff
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One of my wife's offices is in Norwich, CT, less than a mile down stream from the center of town that is likely going to see the Yantic River reach it's highest record stage ever this evening 
Fortunately, her office is a solid 20 feet above the river's usual level with some area of flood plain between it's normal banks and the hillside next to the river that her office is on. The Governor declared a state of emergency in Norwich this morning, National Guard troops are in the area to help, and as my wife told me, "the office is still opening, but they (city officials) are quickly closing down most of the roads that lead to it!"
This is the water flood control data for the dam/reservoir that I ride my mountain bike at which is maybe 2 miles from my office.
https://rsgis.crrel.usace.army.mil/nae/pls/cwmsweb/cwms_realtime.ProjectPage?gagecode=WTD
The water in the reservoir behind the dam has come up about 10 feet in the last 24 hours, and it's a multi mile long, fairly wide reservoir
Fortunately, her office is a solid 20 feet above the river's usual level with some area of flood plain between it's normal banks and the hillside next to the river that her office is on. The Governor declared a state of emergency in Norwich this morning, National Guard troops are in the area to help, and as my wife told me, "the office is still opening, but they (city officials) are quickly closing down most of the roads that lead to it!" This is the water flood control data for the dam/reservoir that I ride my mountain bike at which is maybe 2 miles from my office.
https://rsgis.crrel.usace.army.mil/nae/pls/cwmsweb/cwms_realtime.ProjectPage?gagecode=WTD
The water in the reservoir behind the dam has come up about 10 feet in the last 24 hours, and it's a multi mile long, fairly wide reservoir
drjeff
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You know it's bad out when you're local affiliate station meteorologist gets a quick cameo quick during the lead story on the national nightly news
I "only" had to negotiate through/around/over 10 sections of flooded road and 2 road closures on the what's usually 11 mile trip betwenn my office and house tonight
I "only" had to negotiate through/around/over 10 sections of flooded road and 2 road closures on the what's usually 11 mile trip betwenn my office and house tonight
You know it's bad out when you're local affiliate station meteorologist gets a quick cameo quick during the lead story on the national nightly news
I "only" had to negotiate through/around/over 10 sections of flooded road and 2 road closures on the what's usually 11 mile trip betwenn my office and house tonight
Yikes! My son has already had a couple of "flood days" due to flooded roads--we're in for a couple more this week for sure. Flood days have outnumbered snow days!
riverc0il
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Perhaps Bill's timing is a bit off here as there are a LOT more people being impacted by this weather event than the average hyped up weather event.
However, it is fair criticism to reflect on how the media handles certain events. It is all too easy to forget the over hyped events that don't pan out or the over hyped events that do happen but hardly effect people in any more than an inconvenient kind of way (lest they cause their own problems e.g. driving too fast or dangerously during a snow storm or drive through a raging flooded river, etc.).
In the end, the media are just giving what the masses want... topical coverage of current events. But how do you make that more interesting than the other news outlet that is competing for ad revenue through viewers? You use tried, true, and proven sensationalist presentation with lots of loud and flash sounds and graphics. You use words and sayings that create an emotional reaction (any emotional reaction, whether or not the situation justifies the emotion), etc.
Let's read billski's comments in the intended context they were presented in. Billski didn't say the media should not cover big weather events. Billski did not say emphasis should not be placed on safety and covering tragedies and human interest stories. Billski merely is suggesting that the over the top apocalyptic sensationalist presentation is inappropriate.
However, it is fair criticism to reflect on how the media handles certain events. It is all too easy to forget the over hyped events that don't pan out or the over hyped events that do happen but hardly effect people in any more than an inconvenient kind of way (lest they cause their own problems e.g. driving too fast or dangerously during a snow storm or drive through a raging flooded river, etc.).
In the end, the media are just giving what the masses want... topical coverage of current events. But how do you make that more interesting than the other news outlet that is competing for ad revenue through viewers? You use tried, true, and proven sensationalist presentation with lots of loud and flash sounds and graphics. You use words and sayings that create an emotional reaction (any emotional reaction, whether or not the situation justifies the emotion), etc.
Let's read billski's comments in the intended context they were presented in. Billski didn't say the media should not cover big weather events. Billski did not say emphasis should not be placed on safety and covering tragedies and human interest stories. Billski merely is suggesting that the over the top apocalyptic sensationalist presentation is inappropriate.
Study: Northeast seeing more, fiercer rainstorms
By BOB SALSBERG (AP) – 2 hours ago
BOSTON — A new study shows an increasing frequency of heavy rainstorms in the Northeast and says it's consistent with global warming.
Researchers at University of New Hampshire say in the study released Monday that "extreme precipitation events" have been occurring more often in the region in the past 60 years.
Those are events defined as storms producing at least an inch of rain or the water equivalent of snow over a 24-hour period.
The rainstorm last week that swamped parts of New England would fit those criteria. But UNH professor Cameron Wake cautions there is no way to link a specific storm to global warming.
The study examined precipitation data in nine Northeastern states from 1948 to 2007. Wake says global warming creates more water vapor, which can lead to more storms of greater intensity.
Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
By BOB SALSBERG (AP) – 2 hours ago
BOSTON — A new study shows an increasing frequency of heavy rainstorms in the Northeast and says it's consistent with global warming.
Researchers at University of New Hampshire say in the study released Monday that "extreme precipitation events" have been occurring more often in the region in the past 60 years.
Those are events defined as storms producing at least an inch of rain or the water equivalent of snow over a 24-hour period.
The rainstorm last week that swamped parts of New England would fit those criteria. But UNH professor Cameron Wake cautions there is no way to link a specific storm to global warming.
The study examined precipitation data in nine Northeastern states from 1948 to 2007. Wake says global warming creates more water vapor, which can lead to more storms of greater intensity.
Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
jaywbigred
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Is this really new???????
I think if you study written and semi-written human history, you see the same themes: aggrandizing events of calamity (including weather-related), constant predictions of pending doom or apocalypse, lamentation for some simpler, safer, fictional prior period passed when things were easy, and overzealous celebration and rejoicing when calamity is overcome. If anything, healthy doses of science, esp. in the last 200-300 years, has decreased the degree of our exclamations. We evolved to just using words...we don't hold vast ritual dances and feasts to bring rain anymore, we don't slaughter cattle to end sandstorms, and we don't sacrifice humans to appease angry gods who bring tornadoes or tidal waves or volcanic eruptions.
I think if you study written and semi-written human history, you see the same themes: aggrandizing events of calamity (including weather-related), constant predictions of pending doom or apocalypse, lamentation for some simpler, safer, fictional prior period passed when things were easy, and overzealous celebration and rejoicing when calamity is overcome. If anything, healthy doses of science, esp. in the last 200-300 years, has decreased the degree of our exclamations. We evolved to just using words...we don't hold vast ritual dances and feasts to bring rain anymore, we don't slaughter cattle to end sandstorms, and we don't sacrifice humans to appease angry gods who bring tornadoes or tidal waves or volcanic eruptions.
jaywbigred
Active member
Is this really new???????
I think if you study written and semi-written human history, you see the same themes: aggrandizing events of calamity (including weather-related), constant predictions of pending doom or apocalypse, lamentation for some simpler, safer, fictional prior period passed when things were easy, and overzealous celebration and rejoicing when calamity is overcome. If anything, healthy doses of science, esp. in the last 200-300 years, has decreased the degree of our exclamations. We evolved to just using words...we don't hold vast ritual dances and feasts to bring rain anymore, we don't slaughter cattle to end sandstorms, and we don't sacrifice humans to appease angry gods who bring tornadoes or tidal waves or volcanic eruptions.
I think if you study written and semi-written human history, you see the same themes: aggrandizing events of calamity (including weather-related), constant predictions of pending doom or apocalypse, lamentation for some simpler, safer, fictional prior period passed when things were easy, and overzealous celebration and rejoicing when calamity is overcome. If anything, healthy doses of science, esp. in the last 200-300 years, has decreased the degree of our exclamations. We evolved to just using words...we don't hold vast ritual dances and feasts to bring rain anymore, we don't slaughter cattle to end sandstorms, and we don't sacrifice humans to appease angry gods who bring tornadoes or tidal waves or volcanic eruptions.
hammer
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What amazes me is the amount of water standing around in low spots a week after the storms. Wondering if we will have a bunch of skeeters soon...:x:x
billski
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Entomologists are already forecasting a bumper crop of "biting insects" this year. Another reason to love winter:???:
they're already out in my neighborhood. its too freakin early for this crap if you ask me.
I have a swamp behind my house and they are already out. Going to have to mow the lawn this weekend too.
billski
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Next come the alligators...
the NWS just issued a Flood Watch for selective areas.
I guess all we need is a gallon or two of water.
I just bought a second sump pump just to have as spare parts...
It was kinda funny this morning driving down some newly-opened roads - the first road closed barricades had apparently been washed away and were about 1/8th mile into the woods. Maybe I should just permanently attach a kayak to the roof of my car?
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