• Welcome to AlpineZone, the largest online community of skiers and snowboarders in the Northeast!

    You may have to REGISTER before you can post. Registering is FREE, gets rid of the majority of advertisements, and lets you participate in giveaways and other AlpineZone events!

What's your biggest weakness on the hill??

campgottagopee

New member
Joined
Oct 20, 2006
Messages
3,771
Points
0
Location
Virgil
Thats that point I was trying to make, as the technology has changed the definition of carving has changed, well at least for me I don't know how the rest of you feel.

And Greg, GSS is correct. How old are you Greg?:-D

you're on your own here...I learned how to carve on a 216 downhill ski and spent a few years doing it on 207 GS skis before the first "carving skis" hit the market...full on RR tracks...takes a lot of hill and a lot of speed since its a longer radius turn, but you can make a true carved turn on a straight ski...just takes space, speed and skill.

Chase, ECPH is spot on here. Definition hasn't changed it's just easier to do now so every shmo out there is a "carver". Big deal:spin:
 

deadheadskier

Moderator
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Mar 6, 2005
Messages
28,722
Points
113
Location
Southeast NH
Chase, ECPH is spot on here. Definition hasn't changed it's just easier to do now so every shmo out there is a "carver". Big deal:spin:

+1

....and I still don't get how carving too much is a problem :roll: for his sake, I hope he fixes it ;) whatever it is
 

chase

Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2008
Messages
96
Points
6
Location
PA
you're on your own here...I learned how to carve on a 216 downhill ski and spent a few years doing it on 207 GS skis before the first "carving skis" hit the market...full on RR tracks...takes a lot of hill and a lot of speed since its a longer radius turn, but you can make a true carved turn on a straight ski...just takes space, speed and skill.

yeah...I guess straight skis weren't really straight...do you know what the radius or at least the dimensions those old skis were?
 

chase

Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2008
Messages
96
Points
6
Location
PA
Does anyone know where there is footage of someone carving huge rr tracks on straight skis? Maybe in an old ski movie?
 

deadheadskier

Moderator
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Mar 6, 2005
Messages
28,722
Points
113
Location
Southeast NH
yeah...I guess straight skis weren't really straight...do you know what the radius or at least the dimensions those old skis were?

back in the old days our skis were 62,60,62 for GS in a 207 and the turn radius was 1 to 2 football fields :lol:

heck, I hadn't even paid much attention to the term radius until a few years ago. the two seasons I raced in high school in the early 90's I don't recall it even mattering. It was either a GS or SL ski and that was that. Well, the hardcore racers on the team had SuperG and DH boards. Me? I did everything I could to blow off practice and ski bumps on my 207 Rossi 4G's :lol:
 

chase

Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2008
Messages
96
Points
6
Location
PA
back in the old days our skis were 62,60,62 for GS in a 207 and the turn radius was 1 to 2 football fields :lol:

heck, I hadn't even paid much attention to the term radius until a few years ago. the two seasons I raced in high school in the early 90's I don't recall it even mattering. It was either a GS or SL ski and that was that. Well, the hardcore racers on the team had SuperG and DH boards. Me? I did everything I could to blow off practice and ski bumps on my 207 Rossi 4G's :lol:

Through google I found a ski-radius calculator that says 207cm 62,60,62 makes a 415m radius...wow
 

drjeff

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 18, 2006
Messages
19,541
Points
113
Location
Brooklyn, CT
back in the old days our skis were 62,60,62 for GS in a 207 and the turn radius was 1 to 2 football fields :lol:

heck, I hadn't even paid much attention to the term radius until a few years ago. the two seasons I raced in high school in the early 90's I don't recall it even mattering. It was either a GS or SL ski and that was that. Well, the hardcore racers on the team had SuperG and DH boards. Me? I did everything I could to blow off practice and ski bumps on my 207 Rossi 4G's :lol:

Ooh, late 80's/early 90's Rossi's now those were fun skis!

Back in the late 80's, and then the early 90's, I found my 207 Rossi 4S's and then the 7S's to be real versatile, and especially in what at the time would be considered a "turny" GS course (practically a Super G by todays standard :rolleyes:) to click into my slalom boards over my GS boards, atleast up until the 2nd 1/2 of my college career where I fell in love with my Rossi 7G's! Those purple and gray boards ruled, even if they were a "whimpy" 208cm :rolleyes: ;)
 

gorgonzola

Active member
Joined
Sep 13, 2007
Messages
1,058
Points
38
Location
Bleu Mt PA
uh from what i remember of the good old days the reason we were skiing those lengths was maximize the length of edge contact with the snow as the ski flexed. the tips and tails would lose contact and start to slip through the turns. i gotta say i don't remember too many people carving in the same sense that we see today...
 
Joined
Aug 23, 2007
Messages
17,569
Points
0
I'm a wimp..the longest non-shaped skis I ever had were my Pre-m5a's which were a 195...and then when the tip delaminated I got them replaced with Pre-m6as..made in Park City Utah.

In my Freshman year of college I demoed a pair of K2 4's in the longest length they made..198s..which I thought totally rocked..and I ended up buying the K2 El Caminos in that length which were essentially the same skis except steezier graphics and no chip...198s are long ass'd shaped skis fo shizzle..then the next year I bought some K2 Kreitlers in a 193..and ended up working my way all the way down to 176 Elan S12s a few years ago and 170 length Atomic race skis..now my ski quiver is starting to get longer again.

Back when I skied straight skis..I don't think I was really carving..
 
Top