JD
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skiing is free...lifts cost money.
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skiing is free...lifts cost money.
There is your answer right there. Pow is generally overrated. People go crazy. Its fun, but c'mon!
skiing is free...lifts cost money.
Oh that's naive.
Virgins and pow cost you plenty of time, money and hard work before you get the gusto.
Bumps and ladies of the night take a lot less time and hard work, but perhaps a little bit more money.
This extended metaphor works a little too well...
It's scary how much thought you've put into this metaphor!Your thinking of cost only in terms of money. Cost can also be measured in time or amounts of hard work. So if you are earning your turns, it may not cost you a cent (past your backcountry set-up, which probably is more expensive than the set-up you need for a resort, especially if you carry all the appropriate safety gear), but it will certainly cost you more time and sweat, especially on a "per vertical foot" basis.
So, while a virgin/virgin snow may (or may not) cost you less dollars out of your pocket, it will also cost you more time and hard work.
Bumps/a lady of the night may cost you more out of pocket but much less in terms of time and hard work.
...anywho....
It's scary how much thought you've put into this metaphor!
:lol: Good one, though!
I totally agree
And for the record, I haven't been to Amsterdam...yet...
I'm long on time and short on money. I also ski half my days from my house. No Gas or lift ticket.
AND, I bartered for my skis, my boots cost 100 bucks, my skins cost 100 bucks. My poles were free. I bought my shell and ski pants from Steep and Cheep, total, $230. Other then that I don't really carry anything special. Over the last 4 season I have saved 3000 bucks not buying passes. I'd say I'm ahead. Plus exercise, which you see as a "cost", I see as a necessary part of my sanity. Intense cardio releases chemicals in your brain you just don't get unless you "work" really hard, or take zoloft. Going up makes me feel good, and lapping a resort overnadoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandover is just so freaking boring. I honestly can not imagine how people buy passes at the same area year after year and ski the same runs day after day without being bored to death.....the only way to keep it interesting would be to learn to tele, then snowboard, then teleboard....after being a pass holder at Stowe for 5 years I was over it..... but different strokes.
Plus exercise, which you see as a "cost", I see as a necessary part of my sanity. Intense cardio releases chemicals in your brain you just don't get unless you "work" really hard, or take zoloft. Going up makes me feel good, and lapping a resort overnadoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandover is just so freaking boring. I honestly can not imagine how people buy passes at the same area year after year and ski the same runs day after day without being bored to death.....the only way to keep it interesting would be to learn to tele, then snowboard, then teleboard....after being a pass holder at Stowe for 5 years I was over it..... but different strokes.
I only ski virgin snow. Bumps are like getting a hooker in Amsterdam.
One aspect of skiing is totally fabricated. One is totally naturally occuring. I like harvesting what mother nature provides.
First of all, I would never skin up the Bruce.
Second of all, I wasn't saying I don't ski cut lines, I was saying I don't ski man made snow, or snow that has been transformed into bumps by hundreds of skiers. I want virgin snow.
If it ain't POE, I don't go.
And don't worry about me missing out. I am very satisfied with my ski experience....I've been there and done that with the lift thing. Too many A$$holes. I prefer soft, unmarked snow with good friends close to home. To each there own.....
and my skiing if far from stowecentric. When I go to the shitshow, I go early and leave early.
You could have said all this in three words: I am jaded.
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Greg, you're quick, I edited it.
My resort experience turned me off. I've been attacked on the ski trail. I've watched old ladies be pushed over and nearly trampled in the rush for the first gondi car. I've seen fist fights on the line up over first trail, and I've endured countless lift rides listening to tools drop all the names of all the places they've skiies in an attempt to portray themselves a "real" skier. Yes, it jaded me. I decided to eliminate that aspect of skiing from my experience. Best thing I ever did for pure enjoyment of the activity. Reading Arc1's rant on skimrv brought it all back...and to me, THAT is why resorts suck. Not because everything get's bumped and fresh snow gets skiied off as fast as it falls, but because lift serve it up for the masses, and I don't want to hang out with the masses when I ski. It's my temple, and they are not allowed in...
Snob, maybe. Missing out????
Think not.
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Skiing in and of itself is fabricated. If you're striving for totally naturally occurring, go to take a hike.
Not sure how this is true, but I was refering specifically to the surface. Skiing manmade, or bumped up snow is skiing on a made surface. Skiing the snow that fell from the sky on top of base that has laid there all winter is totally natural surface, and generally is soft, silent, flight.