Cannon single day tickets - blows my mind

[Puck it]

1) Two-fer deals not as much of a bargain when they stopped running the tram on weekdays.

It was a waste of money to operate on every weekday. Money saved was put into the snowmaking budget as I was told a few years ago when they started this.

 

[bobbutts]

Used to be a Cannon semi-regular for Tue/The 2-fers for many winters until the mid-2000s.

The reasons I cut back on going are...

1) Two-fer deals not as much of a bargain when they stopped running the tram on weekdays.

2) The ungodly hassle I would get if I showed up by myself (or with an odd number of people) wanting to get "half off" instead of "two for one". Recall one blustery day waiting a good 25 minutes outside the tix window (as per management's insistence) waiting for another single to "partner up".

I agree, it's half price, just offer it. I have done the on the spot toofer a few times, but strongly prefer to show up with an even number or go somewhere else.

 

[Puck it]

I agree, it's half price, just offer it. I have done the on the spot toofer a few times, but strongly prefer to show up with an even number or go somewhere else.

I agree with you. Sunapee and WV give u the half price with out another person. But Cannon does offer for the last few years as a 2Fer1 or 1 for 1 fer $45.

 

[Cannonball]

I agree, it's half price, just offer it. I have done the on the spot toofer a few times, but strongly prefer to show up with an even number or go somewhere else.

It's not half price though, it's two-for-one. Half price means one person shows up and the mountain receives $35. Two-for-one means two people show up and the mountain receives $70. For the consumer it's the same, but for the company it's twice as much revenue with no increase in overhead.

 

[Puck it]

It's not half price though, it's two-for-one. Half price means one person shows up and the mountain receives $35. Two-for-one means two people show up and the mountain receives $70. For the consumer it's the same, but for the company it's twice as much revenue with no increase in overhead.

But they may be losing revenue by not offering it too. It is a fine line with how much you gain in other things like food and drinks and how many you use by not having the single tix option. Probably the reason that they added the $45 option for a single.

 

[C-Rex]

You gotta pay to play. Period. If you don't like it, earn your turns. Once you've hike a few hills, you'll start thinking that $70 for a lift to take you to the top as many times as you can get in in a day is a bargain. Figure, if you get 14 runs in, you got rides to the top for $5 a pop, not to mention man made snow, grooming, etc. Not too bad. I complain about rising lift ticket prices too but sometimes you gotta take a step back and realize that these guys own a business. I hardly think they are trying to bend people over. They are just trying to pay their own bills and make a living.

 

[St. Bear]

You gotta pay to play. Period. If you don't like it, earn your turns. Once you've hike a few hills, you'll start thinking that $70 for a lift to take you to the top as many times as you can get in in a day is a bargain. Figure, if you get 14 runs in, you got rides to the top for $5 a pop, not to mention man made snow, grooming, etc. Not too bad. I complain about rising lift ticket prices too but sometimes you gotta take a step back and realize that these guys own a business. I hardly think they are trying to bend people over. They are just trying to pay their own bills and make a living.

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree. It strongly behooves the mountain to provide discounts to those who are willing to work to find them.

If I do pay $70 for a ticket, which has never happened, first off I would ski much less often overall. Secondly, I wouldn't spend an additional dime on the mountain.

Now, if I get a $40 ticket, not only would I visit the mountain more often, but I'm likely to buy a sandwich and a beer during lunch.

 

[witch hobble]

I'm afraid I've started a rumor.

All the good Cannon threads have rumors.....so thank you.

 

[Puck it]

All the good Cannon threads have rumors.....so thank you.

Or environmental damage!!!

 

[dlague]

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree. It strongly behooves the mountain to provide discounts to those who are willing to work to find them.

If I do pay $70 for a ticket, which has never happened, first off I would ski much less often overall. Secondly, I wouldn't spend an additional dime on the mountain.

Now, if I get a $40 ticket, not only would I visit the mountain more often, but I'm likely to buy a sandwich and a beer during lunch.

+1

I have never paid full price and never will! I dig and do what ever research to get deals! I do not favor any mountain - I go where the deals are! I have a family of 6 and paying full price would break the bank - therefore we do the movie tour stops (2 fers and comps), ski shows (discounts and comps), volunteer for comps, scour the internet(2 fers), etc. This year we had a fifth grader who skied in VT and NH for free! Our averge lift ticket cost per skier is very low and we will have skied 35+ times this season.

If I were to pay $70 at Cannon I would drive a little further north and ski Jay Peak!

In any case there are some moutains that I rarely ski due to the lack of deals - Stowe, Loon, Cannon, Sunapee, Smuggs and Cranmore to name several! Most have deals for Mid Week but I work M-F. If I take a day off mid week - I am going to a mountain that appreciates me on week-ends for my non-lift ticket revenue.

BTW we skied Cannon in the Spring on a 2 fer after 4/1 and it was a downhill skating rink! This might be better!

 

[C-Rex]

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree. It strongly behooves the mountain to provide discounts to those who are willing to work to find them.

If I do pay $70 for a ticket, which has never happened, first off I would ski much less often overall. Secondly, I wouldn't spend an additional dime on the mountain.



Now, if I get a $40 ticket, not only would I visit the mountain more often, but I'm likely to buy a sandwich and a beer during lunch.

I agree. Wasn't saying that discounts shouldn't be available to those who look for them. I never pay full price for lift tickets. And one of the reasons I don't go to some places is that I get such good discounts at other mountains through my ski club. I'm just saying, you can't blame them for charging a certain price to those who just walk up to the ticket window. They charge a certain price for two reasons: 1) It's what they need to charge to thrive as a business, and 2) People will pay it.

I just get frustrated with people who say things like, "I remember when I skied there in the early 90's, tickets were only $45!" and now they're up to $75. Well, the early 90's was 20 years ago. EVERYTHING costs more now. I'm sure there are some ratios out of balance and all that, but I don't want to get into an economics discussion. Just saying.

 

[deadheadskier]

I agree. Wasn't saying that discounts shouldn't be available to those who look for them. I never pay full price for lift tickets. And one of the reasons I don't go to some places is that I get such good discounts at other mountains through my ski club. I'm just saying, you can't blame them for charging a certain price to those who just walk up to the ticket window. They charge a certain price for two reasons: 1) It's what they need to charge to thrive as a business, and 2) People will pay it.

I just get frustrated with people who say things like, "I remember when I skied there in the early 90's, tickets were only $45!" and now they're up to $75. Well, the early 90's was 20 years ago. EVERYTHING costs more now. I'm sure there are some ratios out of balance and all that, but I don't want to get into an economics discussion. Just saying.

If you were to compare the prices of season passes now vs back then, you'd find for most places we are better off today than 20 years ago actually. Day tickets have gone up for sure, but season pass expense is relatively the same if not a little bit cheaper than days gone buy. I also don't recall nearly the amount of discounts back in the day as you have out there today because there wasn't the same means of advertising the deals (no internet and radio/TV/print being expensive.) So, you either had a season pass or you paid full walk up rate for day tickets.

In general I think skiing is a bit cheaper today for the diehard skiers, but much more expensive for the vacationers than it was 20 years ago.

 

[Tim from the North Shore]

Two rebuttals:

1. “Are you creepy looking or something? Never seen it take longer than 5min with a typical time of about 30sec.”

Yes, I am creepy looking, but that’s beside the point. Why should any customer be inconvenienced for five minutes (and then spread the word about that dissatisfaction, like I’m doing now)? Cannon chooses poor customer service when graciously granting a half-price ticket would bring in the same amount of revenue and send the customer away happier.

1. “For the consumer it's the same, but for the company it's twice as much revenue with no increase in overhead.”

I respectfully disagree with this point, because you are not factoring in that sometimes as a solo skier, I choose not to go to Cannon at all because of their ridiculous two-fer policy, and they get zero revenue instead of my $35. Or sometimes, a third friend is disincentivized from going up with two people.

 

[billski]

As far as the Republic of NH is concerned, Cannon is but one part of a 12-month a year state-owned Franconia Notch State Park. Profits? What are profits?

They Boston Market will pay for convenience - Loon, Waterville, Gunstock, all the way down 93, people pay for convenience. Ditto for Stratton, and Mt. Snow. Not sayin' there aren't a dozen more variables in play, it's one more lever.

 

[billski]

In general I think skiing is a bit cheaper today for the diehard skiers, but much more expensive for the vacationers than it was 20 years ago.

Facilities upgrade costs have added to this. Customers whined about dirt and rocks. Answer: Snowmaking, grooming and bulldozing. Customers whined about slow lifts. Trash the doubles and mid-stations. Six pack and high speed quads.

Back in the day, it was what it was. Dirt, rocks? You just skied around them. Double chair? Sure beats the t-bar or rope tow.
I'm not talking about the "if you build it they will come" fine dining, waterparks and saunas.

Resort top expenditures - #1 labor, #2 energy.

 

[SIKSKIER]

I don't get what is rediculous about their 2fer1 policy.Its exactly what is says,2 tickets for the price of one,not 1/2 price for one.Still the best value big mt around.

 

[Cannonball]

As far as the Republic of NH is concerned, Cannon is but one part of a 12-month a year state-owned Franconia Notch State Park. Profits? What are profits?

They Boston Market will pay for convenience - Loon, Waterville, Gunstock, all the way down 93, people pay for convenience. Ditto for Stratton, and Mt. Snow. Not sayin' there aren't a dozen more variables in play, it's one more lever.

From the ones you listed, Loon and Cannon are the two most comparable in terms of convenience for the Boston Market. How are the deals and pricing at Loon as compared to Cannon? Answer = no contest. Although I will grant you that Loon doesn't put customers through the "ungodly hassle" of a "ridiculous two-fer policy"...instead they just charge you a full $79 every single day.

 

[billski]

BTW, Cannonball, how did you get the polar bear to do that? :beer:

 

[Puck it]

BTW, you can only dis Cannon if you are a regular or Threecy!!!!!

 

[Cannonball]

BTW, Cannonball, how did you get the polar bear to do that? :beer:

haha, I asked him if he wanted to go in on a 2fer with me!

Actually he was very curious about us being there. You don't "get" a polar bear to do anything, they do what they want!