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Cannon single day tickets - blows my mind

drjeff

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Personally I can see the incentive to pay twice as much and have say 1/2 the people there than pay half as much and have say twice the people there.

Often if you complain that the snow surface quickly deteriorates and you're skiing on a day where there's discount incentives that encourage more folks than usual to show up, then it would seem like your trying to proverbial have your cake and eat it too.
 

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That's a good point, drjeff. They probably spend less on trail maintainence and snow making when you have less people tearing it up and skiing it off. If you can make the same money and have less of an impact on your facility, then why not. I'm sure the same goes for food. Less overhead with the same profits. And all they have to do to control the crowd is carefully adjust the prices to the market. Then they take care of their "regulars" by keeping season pass prices reasonably affordable.
 

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Cannon does need to get on Liftopia. Even if they barely offer a discount like some other places (looking at you, Stowe), it's an excellent marketing opportunity. I don't want to get cliche and say it's the future of ticket purchasing, but it kind of is.


Im sure its of the highest priority for ski resorts to focus on marketing to the clientel that are trying to spend the least amount they can at a given place.
 

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Used to be a Cannon semi-regular for Tue/The 2-fers for many winters until the mid-2000s.

The reasons I cut back on going are...

1) Two-fer deals not as much of a bargain when they stopped running the tram on weekdays.

2) The ungodly hassle I would get if I showed up by myself (or with an odd number of people) wanting to get "half off" instead of "two for one". Recall one blustery day waiting a good 25 minutes outside the tix window (as per management's insistence) waiting for another single to "partner up".

Yeah, thats totally bogus you tried to get a deal that doesnt exist and they didnt honor it.
 

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Im sure its of the highest priority for ski resorts to focus on marketing to the clientel that are trying to spend the least amount they can at a given place.

If Cannon feels like they don't have to steeply discount their tickets, that's fine, offer them for a nominal discount (10% off, for example).

The point isn't marketing to dealhunters like me, it's marketing to people who search and buy things on the internet, who are exactly the clientel ski areas are looking to attract.
 

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If Cannon feels like they don't have to steeply discount their tickets, that's fine, offer them for a nominal discount (10% off, for example).

The point isn't marketing to dealhunters like me, it's marketing to people who search and buy things on the internet, who are exactly the clientel ski areas are looking to attract.

What? So you basically just want the same service for a discount. Fine, but you cant hold it against them because they arent offering a screaming deal in your opinion.

Which is my point. Why should a ski area try and capitalize on the lowest common denominator of customer (Aka the ones like you who wont go anywhere unless its a sale). Liftopia is a way to fill chairs in down times, not a primary marketing tool.

Cannon offers more deals consistently than almost any other ski area. Almost half the week, every week, you can get a discounted lift ticket. You guys just sound bitchy and "back in my day" esque.

As Deadhead has pointed out, skiing is actually cheaper these days when taking inflation into account. Holding it against Cannon that they dont offer you half off skiing all the time via liftopia or other promotions just makes you look like a cheap skate.
 

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Are you creepy looking or something? Never seen it take longer than 5min with a typical time of about 30sec. Obviously it helps to show up when the most people are buying tix. Super early or late can make it harder.
This. A thousand times this! Sometimes it can take a while if you have a twofer coupon. But on a twofer day? You just stand at the entrance to sales and ask everyone that passes by and you'll hook up in under a minute tops. I've seen Cannon staff actively partner people up on Super Bowl twofer day.

Tim, be social! Ask people to partner up! Save 50% on your lift ticket. Quite frankly, your refusal to ski Cannon on a twofer because you are too anti-social to partner up is ridiculous. The INTENT of a twofer day is that skiers will bring a friend and more people will ski the mountain because people show up in pairs. Cannon isn't preventing you from pairing up but it is the requirement. They are not going to stop you if you solicit a partner right in front of the sales desk. Life is too short, dude. You should fine a worthy cause to champion with all the energy you've used to be pissed off at Cannon for doing what almost every mountain requires for twofer deals.
 

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What? So you basically just want the same service for a discount. Fine, but you cant hold it against them because they arent offering a screaming deal in your opinion.

Which is my point. Why should a ski area try and capitalize on the lowest common denominator of customer (Aka the ones like you who wont go anywhere unless its a sale). Liftopia is a way to fill chairs in down times, not a primary marketing tool.

Cannon offers more deals consistently than almost any other ski area. Almost half the week, every week, you can get a discounted lift ticket. You guys just sound bitchy and "back in my day" esque.

As Deadhead has pointed out, skiing is actually cheaper these days when taking inflation into account. Holding it against Cannon that they dont offer you half off skiing all the time via liftopia or other promotions just makes you look like a cheap skate.

First off, I am a cheapskate. I have to be to be able to afford to do the things I want to do.

Secondly, you're completely misinterpreting what I'm saying. I would love it if Cannon got on Liftopia and aggressively discounted their tickets. Obviously, they feel like they don't have to, and they're probably right (they would know better than I would).

What I'm saying, is that completely ignoring that site is a mistake as more and more people research and purchase products and services online. I disagree with your point in bold. Nobody is saying Liftopia is a primary marketing took, but it's a marketing tool nonetheless. If an organization is trying to reach as many potential customers as possible, why would it intentionally limit that number?
 

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One thing nobody mentioned is if you're sleepy like me and show up at 11, it takes longer to find someone.
 

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First off, I am a cheapskate. I have to be to be able to afford to do the things I want to do.

Secondly, you're completely misinterpreting what I'm saying. I would love it if Cannon got on Liftopia and aggressively discounted their tickets. Obviously, they feel like they don't have to, and they're probably right (they would know better than I would).

What I'm saying, is that completely ignoring that site is a mistake as more and more people research and purchase products and services online. I disagree with your point in bold. Nobody is saying Liftopia is a primary marketing took, but it's a marketing tool nonetheless. If an organization is trying to reach as many potential customers as possible, why would it intentionally limit that number?

Let's not forget that mountains can also limit the number of tickets available via Liftopia, Groupon etc. By putting the deal online, it doesn't mean the deal will be available to every single person who wants that deal. I've missed out on deals in the past and then ended up going to the same area and paid full mark up rate.

Also to consider is that in certain situations, Liftopia doesn't offer a savings at all. Mountains can use it as a purchase portal for other products at full price. For example, Killington's $199 spring pass is available for sale on Liftopia at zero discount.

I think overall the most important thing something like Liftopia is good for is impulse buying. Someone notices the weather is looking decent a couple of days out. They look on Liftopia and if there's a good deal, maybe they blow off work for the day and go skiing. No decent deals, well maybe they wait for another time.

Whatever it is, it clearly is working. I meet people on the chairlift all the time these days who have bought their tickets through Liftopia. 3-4 years ago, I don't recall running into people often at all with Liftopia tix.
 

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not sure what the problem is. $70 for a mountain of that size is completely inline, if not cheaper, then what you find anywhere else. In terms of vt resorts, it's DEFINITELY cheaper. skiing is expensive. is this some kind of revelation?
 

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I still can't get it into my noggin' that Cannon is charging $70.00 for an adult all day ticket good any day and that they have pretty much zero discounting/deals going on, except in the off-season advance purchase category. With all the digging I've done, you would have thought I would have found something.

I see on FB they had a 2fer today. Where was that publicized?

I do notice the following:
"Add extended weekend lift hours and spring 2-for-$70 pricing starting April 1st..."

Can't believe so too. That's why I think it's a better value to pay $80 to go to $teaux with a ski bus vs drive a car up to Cannon (no buses go there) and pay $70. Granted, the 2 for $70 is a good deal when you can get a carload of people together but that's tough to do during midweek.

I do notice WV has better deals. Average Temp/Pats Tuesday ticket tends to be around $25 and they're easily $43 on Mon, Weds, and Friday. Even $49 for lift and lunch isn't bad. Comp tickets have been at various sources such as the mall, 99, and I hear Coors Light as well. Heck, even I can justify the cost of getting in my car and driving myself to the mountain for the day as I generally burn $34ish in gas. Regular price of $63 midweek is only charged at WV if you don't stop at Dunkins to get a receipt on Wednesdays. But I do notice that WV is $43 on Monday and Friday vs 2 for 1 along with Wheel of Deals but specials on Tuesday through Thursday have come with it and better circulation of comp tickets vs the past 4 or 5 years.
I do get a kick out of how much they are promoting the White Mountain Superpass. If I'm going to pay that much for a pass, I'd might as well buy the $1k Boyne deal and try to naw out a good 25 days at a minimum to get my cost per day below $40. At least you can take a bus to Sunday River on many days throughout the season and then still fill it w/ some day trips to Loon.

Still do say both Cannon and WV beat Loon any day on price (unless you're comparing a $70 Cannon ticket and a $73 Waterville ticket w/ driving yourself on a day trip to Loon's $80 bus trip that would run that same day), and there's not much additional benefit to going there especially with how many people wait for that gondola. Maybe you could argue some additional snowmaking but that's it.
 

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Can't believe so too. That's why I think it's a better value to pay $80 to go to $teaux with a ski bus vs drive a car up to Cannon (no buses go there) and pay $70. Granted, the 2 for $70 is a good deal when you can get a carload of people together but that's tough to do during midweek.

I do notice WV has better deals. Average Temp/Pats Tuesday ticket tends to be around $25 and they're easily $43 on Mon, Weds, and Friday. Even $49 for lift and lunch isn't bad. Comp tickets have been at various sources such as the mall, 99, and I hear Coors Light as well. Heck, even I can justify the cost of getting in my car and driving myself to the mountain for the day as I generally burn $34ish in gas. Regular price of $63 midweek is only charged at WV if you don't stop at Dunkins to get a receipt on Wednesdays. But I do notice that WV is $43 on Monday and Friday vs 2 for 1 along with Wheel of Deals but specials on Tuesday through Thursday have come with it and better circulation of comp tickets vs the past 4 or 5 years.
I do get a kick out of how much they are promoting the White Mountain Superpass. If I'm going to pay that much for a pass, I'd might as well buy the $1k Boyne deal and try to naw out a good 25 days at a minimum to get my cost per day below $40. At least you can take a bus to Sunday River on many days throughout the season and then still fill it w/ some day trips to Loont.

+1 Up totally agree, so if I ever move to a city I will take ski bus again. Plus experience driver, great tires for bad conditions, falling a sleep on a bus is find, falling a sleep while driving to your car is not good.
 

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I have been to Cannon on 2fer1 days and had the people working there actually hook me up with other singles in the line next to me. ken Jones in Manchvegas also sells tix for $59. Also have seen tix on Craig's list as well.
 
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