Day tickets going through the roof in Vermont

[fbrissette]

Haha truth! Over 400 private jets went to the COP26 climate seminar in Glasgow. Ridiculous. Fly commercial like everyone else if you really care.

COP26 is a carbon free conference. A lot of the participants flying there are buying carbon offsets. Not all of them for sure, but more than you think.

 

[raisingarizona]

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and the early open late close season that hits july 4 sometimes

And the soul factor! I think it’s pretty rad that they decided to no longer go with ikon or whatever mega pass conglomeration they had been a part of in an effort to keep the skiing there better for their customers and locals.

Has any other area done this yet?

 

[skiur]

COP26 is a carbon free conference. A lot of the participants flying there are buying carbon offsets. Not all of them for sure, but more than you think.

Still hypocritical of them to fly there in a private jet.

 

[ThatGuy]

COP26 is a carbon free conference. A lot of the participants flying there are buying carbon offsets. Not all of them for sure, but more than you think.

Buying a carbon offset is like taking a giant dump in one yard but shoveling a little shit out of the manure pile in another.

 

[jimk]

And the soul factor! I think it’s pretty rad that they decided to no longer go with ikon or whatever mega pass conglomeration they had been a part of in an effort to keep the skiing there better for their customers and locals.

Has any other area done this yet?

Agree, A-Basin has the goods. Loveland's nice too though. A-Basin switched from Epic to Ikon. Didn't Snowbasin go from mtn collective to Epic? Probably been a few others too.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Unlimited epic to 5 day ikon is a significant step in the correct direction

 

[snoseek]

The draw to Loveland is people drive past it. You don't see a lot of people from the east coast there and its not on Epic or Ikon. I changed my passes up often in my Colorado days but always without fail held a Loveland pass to get away from all the bs. The terrain at Abasin is far superior but if you like windblown chalk Loveland is a dream.

 

[raisingarizona]

The draw to Loveland is people drive past it. You don't see a lot of people from the east coast there and its not on Epic or Ikon. I changed my passes up often in my Colorado days but always without fail held a Loveland pass to get away from all the bs. The terrain at Abasin is far superior but if you like windblown chalk Loveland is a dream.

I love the wind buff! More so than even blower!

 

[BenedictGomez]

COP26 is a carbon free conference. A lot of the participants flying there are buying carbon offsets.

ROTFLMAO.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Buying a carbon offset is like taking a giant dump in one yard but shoveling a little shit out of the manure pile in another.

Carbon offset - (noun) - A way rich people live as hypocritical as they like while polluting as much as they like via duping naïve people. Usually, but not always, while simultaneously preaching to those same naïve people.

 

[mister moose]

Still hypocritical of them to fly there in a private jet.

Yes and no.

You really need to look at the aircraft and the number of passengers. If the private jet has similar seat miles per gallon with seats full or nearly full, you really can't make this claim. However with only a few seats filled, it's a way more inefficient use of resources. For some reason the popular rhetoric isn't interested in those details, and "private jet" suffers in the popular finger pointing culture.


How about it's hypocritical of them to fly there at all, instead of a zoom meeting.

 

[abc]

Yes and no.

You really need to look at the aircraft and the number of passengers. If the private jet has similar seat miles per gallon with seats full or nearly full, you really can't make this claim. However with only a few seats filled, it's a way more inefficient use of resources. For some reason the popular rhetoric isn't interested in those details, and "private jet" suffers in the popular finger pointing culture.


How about it's hypocritical of them to fly there at all, instead of a zoom meeting.

It’s like asking why take a chair instead of skinning up

 

[BenedictGomez]

How about it's hypocritical of them to fly there at all, instead of a zoom meeting.

Correct. This rather obvious point precludes your entire preamble. They're there to drink fantastic wine, have sex with hookers, be interviewed & feel important, and revel in their collective, smug, self-righteous, elitism.

Intelligent people have understood this for many years, the naïve still haven't caught on.

 

[skiur]

How about it's hypocritical of them to fly there at all, instead of a zoom meeting.

Thank you captain obvious.

 

[VTKilarney]

Yes and no.

You really need to look at the aircraft and the number of passengers. If the private jet has similar seat miles per gallon with seats full or nearly full, you really can't make this claim. However with only a few seats filled, it's a way more inefficient use of resources. For some reason the popular rhetoric isn't interested in those details, and "private jet" suffers in the popular finger pointing culture.


How about it's hypocritical of them to fly there at all, instead of a zoom meeting.

Private jets don’t have similar seat miles per gallon.

 

[boston_e]

Not Vermont but a day ticket at Steamboat can be up to $269 during peak days

 

[1dog]

Correct. This rather obvious point precludes your entire preamble. They're there to drink fantastic wine, have sex with hookers, be interviewed & feel important, and revel in their collective, smug, self-righteous, elitism.

Intelligent people have understood this for many years, the naïve still haven't caught on.

wasn't it Rod Stewart who said, 'every picture tells a story , don't it'?

 

[Smellytele]

wasn't it Rod Stewart who said, 'every picture tells a story , don't it'?

Do you have a chart saying what each countries CO2 emisions are?
Per capita emissions maybe misleading as how much has the population grown?
So the whole picture is not being shown. So every picture can tell what story you want it to.
numbers used and not used and graphs can be used to show what you want unfortunately.

 

[cdskier]

Do you have a chart saying what each countries CO2 emisions are?
Per capita emissions maybe misleading as how much has the population grown?
So the whole picture is not being shown. So every picture can tell what story you want it to.
numbers used and not used and graphs can be used to show what you want unfortunately.

Yup...very valid point. The US is number 2 globally in terms of the amount of overall CO2 emissions produced.

 

[urungus]

wasn't it Rod Stewart who said, 'every picture tells a story , don't it'?

It was Mark Twain who popularized the phrase “there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics”

eg
Using per capita stats and not accounting for population growth
Using 1973, just before the oil crisis, as a base of comparison
Showing amount of reduction/increase, without showing the baseline (total) amount of emissions to compare it against
Using data provided by British Petroleum (would you trust smoking stats coming from Philip Morris)
etc