Day tickets going through the roof in Vermont

[BenedictGomez]

Loveland? I really enjoy it there.

I prefered Loveland over Arapahoe Basin.

 

[BenedictGomez]

5 years ago you could find a ski club ticket at a big mountain VT/NH/ME resort for $50-$60 a day.

Or much less. $40 was common, even $20-$25 at a few places were a steal. EPIC/IKON killed all that (intentionally).

 

[Smellytele]

I prefered Loveland over Arapahoe Basin.

Loved them both

 

[boston_e]

. EPIC/IKON killed all that (intentionally).

Indeed - all a part of the business model trying to steer people away from tickets and to passes.

 

[Abubob]

Just saw an ad on IMDb streaming for either Epic or Ikon (can’t remember which) but they made $93 a day sound like such a DEAL!

 

[Harvey]

Corporations do not have 100 year plans.

Rob Katz is compensated on next quarters results. He isn't concerned with the long term growth of skiing.

Really though, who is? Very few who are responsible for ticket pricing.

 

[jimmywilson69]

I prefered Loveland over Arapahoe Basin.

I like Loveland a lot but better than A Basin? I thought you were a better skier than that

 

[PAabe]

Storm skiing interview earlier this year with Montage owner was interesting. They are trying to keep walk up rates reasonable or even cheap on off-peak times. He said, they have to make the snow anyway, so may as well try to attract the crowds midweek and nights. It was noted that people coming midweek often appreciate their "ski-for-all" $35/$40 rate for day ticket+rentals, and the midweek customers are largely people with non Monday-Friday 9-5 schedules like the service industry or students, and are often locals.

He said that if they can get people to come to Montage once, there is a good chance they will keep coming back, especially locals, younger people, and new skiers, and ultimately that is good for their business.

 

[eatskisleep]

Indeed - all a part of the business model trying to steer people away from tickets and to passes.

All part of the business model to put smaller ski areas out of business.

 

[eatskisleep]

Maybe they are looking at the climate science and have decided to get everything they can while we still have regular winters.

They gotta be looking at the predictions and making plans based around them. You’d be foolish to not be.

If they were, why would summer operations at Attitash be shut down still? Pre Vail there would be hour+ lift lines for the Alpine Slides. There would be hundreds of families there using the water park etc.

Now, Alpine slides over grown with weeds, no mountain biking this year etc. if you believe in global warming, why wouldn’t you be making a HUGE push for summer activities at your mountains? Same with Wildcat, no zip line this past summer? Vail is having trouble looking two weeks ahead, never mind two years or decades. Sad really. While other places are making a big push, Vail just doesn’t care. Even look at independent places like Berkshire East. They have made a huge push towards mountain biking investing a few million $ into it. It is world class and people travel to get by here because the biking is amazing. They also have zip lines etc. on the Nice weekends during the summer the parking lot is FULL!

 

[Abubob]

If they were, why would summer operations at Attitash be shut down still? Pre Vail there would be hour+ lift lines for the Alpine Slides. There would be hundreds of families there using the water park etc.

Now, Alpine slides over grown with weeds, no mountain biking this year etc. if you believe in global warming, why wouldn’t you be making a HUGE push for summer activities at your mountains? Same with Wildcat, no zip line this past summer? Vail is having trouble looking two weeks ahead, never mind two years or decades. Sad really. While other places are making a big push, Vail just doesn’t care. Even look at independent places like Berkshire East. They have made a huge push towards mountain biking investing a few million $ into it. It is world class and people travel to get by here because the biking is amazing. They also have zip lines etc. on the Nice weekends during the summer the parking lot is FULL!

Something about a global pandemic?

 

[eatskisleep]

Something about a global pandemic?

Everyplace else is open and thriving. Look at Berkshire East for example. Place is MOBBED during the summer. North Conway, more crowded than EVER!

 

[Abubob]

Everyplace else is open and thriving. Look at Berkshire East for example. Place is MOBBED during the summer. North Conway, more crowded than EVER!

Then it may have to do with the labor shortage or some inner organizational troubles (both may be related to the pandemic). I wouldn't necessarily say Attitash (Vail) isn't planning for the future with climate change. I'm sure they would LOVE to take advantage of summer crowds.

 

[Smellytele]

Then it may have to do with the labor shortage or some inner organizational troubles (both may be related to the pandemic). I wouldn't necessarily say Attitash (Vail) isn't planning for the future with climate change. I'm sure they would LOVE to take advantage of summer crowds.

Not sure about them wanting to to be honest

 

[BenedictGomez]

if you believe in global warming, why wouldn’t you be making a HUGE push for summer activities at your mountains?

If you believe in global warming, why would you fly on private jets, have oceanfront homes, eat red meat, own dogs & other pets, or _________ (insert 10001 other things here).

 

[BenedictGomez]

I like Loveland a lot but better than A Basin? I thought you were a better skier than that

I'm a terrible skier, but there's plenty of great terrain at Loveland. I like Arapahoe Basin as well, but I think their back bowl is overrated. Really the place is mostly about the wall (which is admittedly awesome). There's something to be said about mountain culture too, and I really like how Mom & Pop and family "everybody knows your name" Loveland is. It's like a western Plattekill.

 

[eatskisleep]

If you believe in global warming, why would you fly on private jets, have oceanfront homes, eat red meat, own dogs & other pets, or _________ (insert 10001 other things here).

Haha truth! Over 400 private jets went to the COP26 climate seminar in Glasgow. Ridiculous. Fly commercial like everyone else if you really care.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

lol. A-basin is not “all about” the wall. pally, the steep gullies, the beavers, and Zuma all say you’re mistaken. If it’s “all about” anything it’s Pally, one of the best chairs in the country in terms of terrain served

 

[raisingarizona]

lol. A-basin is not “all about” the wall. pally, the steep gullies, the beavers, and Zuma all say you’re mistaken. If it’s “all about” anything it’s Pally, one of the best chairs in the country in terms of terrain served

Let’s not leave out the beach and the tailgating scene or those incredibly delicious bloody Mary’s!

There’s a bunch of fun and playful lines in the bowl just below the wall as well.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Let’s not leave out the beach and the tailgating scene or those incredibly delicious bloody Mary’s!

There’s a bunch of fun and playful lines in the bowl just below the wall as well.

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and the early open late close season that hits july 4 sometimes