Environmental Damage at Cannon Mountain Ski Area

[threecy]

NH DEP ignores complaints about environmental violations. NH finance department covers up accounting practices for state facilities. NH state employees block access to public lands. Sounds like you've got yourself a nice conspiracy theory going there.

Photos have been posted of the environmental damage.

DRED financial documents have been posted showing accounting practices in that division.

Photos of signs have been posted showing prohibition of access to the ski trails.

Facts, not conspiracy theories.

 

[deadheadskier]

Photos have been posted of the environmental damage.

DRED financial documents have been posted showing accounting practices in that division.

Photos of signs have been posted showing prohibition of access to the ski trails.

all by you threecy and by no one else.

Cannonball said, "So in all fairness I have been trying to find some other reports on this issue. Maybe something from an objective news source"

There is nothing else out there. All there is is a one man editorial style internet smear campaign being brought forth by you. That gives you ZERO credibility.

 

[Cannonball]

Photos have been posted of the environmental damage.

DRED financial documents have been posted showing accounting practices in that division.

Photos of signs have been posted showing prohibition of access to the ski trails.

Facts, not conspiracy theories.

Thanks Threecy. I've seen all of that on your site. I'm not questioning the things you have posted. I'm interested in the whole story. I'm not positive if I'm getting it from your site or not so I'm just asking for some other sources. I'm looking for them myself but if you (or anyone) happens to have them I'd be interested in seeing it. That's all.

For example: You are obviously very concerned about the environmental condition there. You've gone through the trouble to hike up there (despite the signage) and take pictures to document t. Given your obvious concern, have you filed a complaint with NH DEP? If so, what was their response? If not, why? This isn't some kind of trap or argument. I'm just curious and it seems relevant.

 

[jimmywilson69]

why not contact the media about said issues? Or least NHDEP, first.

As stated before, there is erosion and it is probably fairly easy and cost effective to fix.

If there is sedimentation in a stream, I would imagine that would grab someone at DEP's attention.

 

[skiberg]

Thank god the owners of Cannon had enough foresight to spend the extra money and use helicopters to install the new lift at Mittersill. I can only imagine what would have happened if they used ground machinery. Thanks for pointing this damage out. I can only hope that in the future we use the same strict environmenal regulations when clearing areas on Mittersill as the CCC did in the 30's when they cleared the Taft trail with dynamite.

 

[threecy]

all by you threecy and by no one else.

Cannonball said, "So in all fairness I have been trying to find some other reports on this issue. Maybe something from an objective news source"

There is nothing else out there. All there is is a one man editorial style internet smear campaign being brought forth by you. That gives you ZERO credibility.

I did not create the DRED source documents. I posted the documents supplied by DRED. If you don't agree with the charts created, you can go to the source information that has been provided to everyone free of charge. Or, you can spend a month navigating bureaucracy and pay the per page fee to see the same documents.

It really pains me to have "deadheadskier" accuse me of having "ZERO credibility."

 

[Puck it]

Would have CTEC used the road up Skyline to get it's crew and supplies up there?

 

[deadheadskier]

I did not create the DRED source documents. I posted the documents supplied by DRED. If you don't agree with the charts created, you can go to the source information that has been provided to everyone free of charge. Or, you can spend a month navigating bureaucracy and pay the per page fee to see the same documents.

It really pains me to have "deadheadskier" accuse me of having "ZERO credibility."

you must have been really good at dodge ball in grade school

Again, Cannonball was asking for a source, other than the ones you've pointed out.

 

[Black Phantom]

you must have been really good at dodge ball in grade school

Again, Cannonball was asking for a source, other than the ones you've pointed out.

Why is it not possible to do your own homework? Maybe it's time to "eat your peas"

 

[deadheadskier]

Why is it not possible to do your own homework? Maybe it's time to "eat your peas"

why is not possible for threecy to state, sorry Cannonball, I'm not aware of information from other objective news sources out there on the environmental damage. The only thing I am aware of is the pictures I have taken?

instead he just goes in circles and points back to his pictures and his website

I think you could enjoy some peas as well little man, perhaps some carrots to.

 

[Black Phantom]

why is not possible for threecy to state, sorry Cannonball, I'm not aware of information from other objective news sources out there on the environmental damage. The only thing I am aware of is the pictures I have taken?

instead he just goes in circles and points back to his pictures and his website

I think you could enjoy some peas as well little man, perhaps some carrots to.

Are you that simple little fella?:smile: Does every "story" start have to be on WMUR? Or is TMZ more your speed? Not familiar with an environmental edition as of yet. Maybe one is in the works???

He has not gone "in circles". What you call circles, I would call keeping on track.
Do you actually read your replies? I think you need and editor.

 

[deadheadskier]

over the edge more like it :lol:

 

[jimmywilson69]

is this argument going on in 2 threads now?

 

[Cannonball]

Why is it not possible to do your own homework?

I know this wasn't directed at me. But I am doing my own homework. I have been using search terms in Google, news outlets, etc. I'm searching things like "Cannon" + "environment" "damage" "enforcement" "erosion" "debris" "sedimentation" "fines" etc. In doing these searches I find zero relevant news stories. I find two websites; 1) Threecy's site, and 2) this thread on AlpineZone.

I'll keep looking. In the meantime I offered Threecy the opportunity to provide some himself since he's obviously pretty deep into this. Thought he might have something worth sharing. So far the only thing he mentioned was some video from the senate budget hearings. He wasn't sure if the link still existed and I haven't been able to find it.

If is real environmental damage as described by Threecy we should all be unhappy about it. So I'm interested in confirming if it is or it isn't.

 

[AdironRider]

Are you that simple little fella?:smile: Does every "story" start have to be on WMUR? Or is TMZ more your speed? Not familiar with an environmental edition as of yet. Maybe one is in the works???

He has not gone "in circles". What you call circles, I would call keeping on track.
Do you actually read your replies? I think you need and editor.

So some guy with a political agenda put it on his own agenda based webpage, that absolutely means its true! Jesus, your like the retarded antithesis of myself. Ill give you some credit, Threecy is definitely keeping his personal agenda on track, its just everyone else knows its complete horseshit.

Im pretty sure I could go for a walk in Grand Teton national park and within 5 minutes be able to find a close up photo of something in the environment being damaged, and trust me, the green initiative is much stronger here than anything happening in NH. Point is, taking an extreme closeup shot of a rut in the dirt from a truck, does not mean the world is coming to an end. If that was left alone for a year or two you would never even know it happened. Relax.

The photos Ive seen are not that dramatic and do little to actually "harm" the environment. Concrete in a pile, while not the prettiest thing to look at, is not going to lead to every stream on the mountain being ruined. Should it be there, maybe not, but that argument has no end until nothing is ever built again, anywhere. You taking a shit has an environmental impact in some form. Again, relax.

In fact, just being alive Threecy is causing much more environmental damage than a pile of concrete. That camera he took the photo with? Petroleum products. Unless he walked to Cannon completely, those greenhouse gases, environmental impact. At least hes just typing and not dumping any more CO2 in the air from his big mouth. These arguments are retarded.

 

[Black Phantom]

So some guy with a political agenda put it on his own agenda based webpage, that absolutely means its true! Jesus, your like the retarded antithesis of myself. Ill give you some credit, Threecy is definitely keeping his personal agenda on track, its just everyone else knows its complete horseshit.

Im pretty sure I could go for a walk in Grand Teton national park and within 5 minutes be able to find a close up photo of something in the environment being damaged, and trust me, the green initiative is much stronger here than anything happening in NH. Point is, taking an extreme closeup shot of a rut in the dirt from a truck, does not mean the world is coming to an end. If that was left alone for a year or two you would never even know it happened. Relax.

The photos Ive seen are not that dramatic and do little to actually "harm" the environment. Concrete in a pile, while not the prettiest thing to look at, is not going to lead to every stream on the mountain being ruined. Should it be there, maybe not, but that argument has no end until nothing is ever built again, anywhere. You taking a shit has an environmental impact in some form. Again, relax.

In fact, just being alive Threecy is causing much more environmental damage than a pile of concrete. That camera he took the photo with? Petroleum products. Unless he walked to Cannon completely, those greenhouse gases, environmental impact. At least hes just typing and not dumping any more CO2 in the air from his big mouth. These arguments are retarded.

I think we can all see your true colors with this post. Classy.

 

[riverc0il]

It really pains me to have "deadheadskier" accuse me of having "ZERO credibility."

You are citing a web site you created as a news source against which you have provided no other unbiased sources that have reviewed your information and concur there are issues. If you were just citing opinion, that is one thing. But you are putting your own web site out as a news source. That does show a lack of credibility, IMO.

 

[AdironRider]

I think we can all see your true colors with this post. Classy.

Cindy Lauper looks pretty hot in that pic. I take it as a compliment.

 

[jimmywilson69]

:-o:lol::-o:lol::-o:lol::-o:lol::-o:lol::-o:lol::-o:lol::-o:lol:

 

[threecy]

Would have CTEC used the road up Skyline to get it's crew and supplies up there?

The photos of the bare ledge on Skyline were not part of the access road - somebody decided to cut off the access road and go direct to the top of the chair. I have no reason to believe this was Doppelmayr CTEC.