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HS most be the guy everyone loves to hate cause Kzoners are signing up here just to harass him.

If you Kwinnies don’t like him why are you bating him into coming back to Kzone, just so you can give him grief? I hate it when a bunch of guys all decide to pick on one. It’s lame and spineless.

Welcome Highway Star, I hope you like it here.
 

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Nobody gonna take my car I'm gonna race it to the gro-ound
Nobody gonna beat my car it's gonna break the speed of so-ound
 

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HS most be the guy everyone loves to hate cause Kzoners are signing up here just to harass him.

If you Kwinnies don’t like him why are you bating him into coming back to Kzone, just so you can give him grief? I hate it when a bunch of guys all decide to pick on one. It’s lame and spineless.

Welcome Highway Star, I hope you like it here.


They only wish that he'd leave k-zone!
 

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HS most be the guy everyone loves to hate cause Kzoners are signing up here just to harass him.

If you Kwinnies don’t like him why are you bating him into coming back to Kzone, just so you can give him grief? I hate it when a bunch of guys all decide to pick on one. It’s lame and spineless.

Welcome Highway Star, I hope you like it here.

Thanks for the warm welcome. This is not the first or the last message board I will inhabit. I tend to adapt to the culture of each - K-zone has it's own specific culture.
 

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Thanks for the warm welcome. This is not the first or the last message board I will inhabit. I tend to adapt to the culture of each - K-zone has it's own specific culture.

My God. He even sounds like a borg.

I am scared...
 

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98% of KZone is great...

The other 2% scares the crap out of me....

So i stay the hell off that site...

Highwaystar is pretty funy the way he stirs things up... =Just like Diss...
 

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98% of KZone is great...

The other 2% scares the crap out of me....

So i stay the hell off that site...

Highwaystar is pretty funy the way he stirs things up... =Just like Diss...

I've never been on K Zone, are there death threat trolls over there or something?
 

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I think the point here is give him a chance. We all are allowed new beginnings, don't prejudge. I like it here casue its usually very positive.

I'll call out Andy Zee( He can take it) He has had a tough go there at times. He IMO is one of the better posters here and makes outings, has put together videos. Wouldn't have an outing without letting him know.

Different venues sometimes makes a differerence. Some great folks on K-zone. I met alot there at the B1BBQ events. They made AZ folk that came very welcome.

There are some that just like to stir the pot and get under folks skin, (again my opinion)

I leave there every know an then. Too many nice folks to go away a long time. Not many better than Ty, Dork, Andy and V.
 

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I found AlpineZone from TGR. I found Highway Star over there.

All he did was spew "how great of a skier he was" and "how he could school anyone over at TGR" With some of the talent on that board (Shane McConkey, Chris Davenport, TJ Burke, etc.....) It was lame. The board even went easy on him at first explaining that it was very unlikely for a strong east coast skier to come to the west and shine among the hard skiing locals. He continued his rant and it became obvious to TGR that he was using geography as a safety net.

The day came when HS challeneged anyone to a "ski off" at killington, a couple of TGRers showed up and gave him some props for getting down the hill, in knarly east coast conditions. It was also discussed that he was out of his league (terrain and skills) to be spewing so much about his exceptional skills and pace in comparison to TGR talent.

here is a link, which has become famous for humor, please be aware that there is vulger language and the thread could also contain some Not Safe For Work pics. (I didn't read the whole thing again, but both of those warnings should be taken seriously)

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80679&highlight=Highway+star

TGR beat him down pretty bad and he ended up deleting most of his posts and changing his name to Daimian Sanders.

I came from the east at the mature age of 23 with a strong head, I got my ass handed to me the first day and after 15 years of 70+/ 20K vert days, I have seen both sides. I am not saying EC skiers can't come compete with the large sustained vert, altitude, etc..... I am saying that there aren't that many. and in the TGR case, the crime wasn't not knowing the aformentioned, the crime was the continued self idolization. Skiers with strong skills will adapt quick they just won't come out of the gate strong. The opinions gained from a couple of pics and videos seemed to prove that Highway Star was not one who could come out and "show us up"

HS has a certain reputation on other ski boards. Will that be the same here? Guess we will have to wait and see. Is he a bad guy? Prob not. Do his words discribe his skill? Prob not.

It would be my pleasure to guide him around my home mountains, at any pace. I would be suprised if he could keep up, but I can adjust. Who knows maybe I am wrong, and maybe I would even find a new ski buddy out of the expierence. We will have to wait to see if he ever makes it to Aspen, and if he would actually make contact to meet. Time will tell!
 
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Lloyd Braun. Many of us are aware of the story, but since the thread is up I think your post was fair and informative. New day new board. Lets just be what we are known for.... giving everyone a chance. You won't hear alot of chest beating here. More ball busting.
 

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I guess all the spouting off about how great a skier he is is what I don't care for in the Highway Star persona on other boards. I know of one AZer that I've skied with quite a bit who...well...wasn't all that impressed when he bumped into HS this season. Also, the "I'm always right" attitude can wear on you, but once you understand the persona (real or not?), he's easier to accept.

Beyond all that, the guy does come up with some interesting discussions and I appreciate his enthusiasm for the sport and some of his unique ideas. I'm willing to give the guy a chance here. He's made it clear to me publicly and privately that he knows how this board differs from others like K-zone and TGR. He's promised to abide by the reasonable "rules" we have here and the mods and I will be fair to him. Yeah, he's opinionated and probably could use some work with his online delivery, but I don't have much of a problem with what he's posted here so far. I've already welcomed him and would like to see him given a chance.
 
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The board even went easy on him at first explaining that it was very unlikely for a strong east coast skier to come to the west and shine among the hard skiing locals. ..... I am saying that there aren't that many.

Lloyd...next time in Jackson look up Mike Tierney...or flip through last year's issues of Powder...Mike's in two of them, on an incredibly sick line in both shots...one of them straight down the face of Cody Peak...he's been in Jackson for about a decade. I used to work with Mike in a shop at Sunday River...back when he was a young, high school punk from Mass. IMHO He's one of the best skiers you've never heard of...and proof that eastern bred skiers can grow up to become some of the best "western locals" around. Ben Wheeler, Snowbird local...won the Snowbird freeskiing comp a few years back, also a former Sunday River skier...does the name Simon Dumont ring a bell...X-Games gold twice...another one from Sunday River. But I'll agree that the average east coast resident ripper will have a tough go keeping up with the best western locals...its the time on the terrain...I'm not as comfortable on nasty, exposed steeps now as I was when I lived out there and spent 80-100 days on the hill...but I'm better now in tight east coast trees despite being 10yrs older...time on the terrain. Take a solid eastern skier and transplant them out west for a few years and you've got a recipie for one helluva ripping skier. Some of the best skiers I knew in Vail were originally from the east...Whiteface, Sugarloaf, etc...every year I'll flip through Powder, Ski, or Skiing and see one of them (yeah, okay, its Vail...I know...but there's plenty of "tough" terrain there if you know where to look). Think about it...of all the people you know out there in Aspen, how many were born there...or in Denver? At least half of the people I've met living out west are from the east or midwest...listen to one of those "hard skiing locals" talk for a bit...half the time you'll probably catch an east coast accent.
 

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Lloyd...next time in Jackson look up Mike Tierney...or flip through last year's issues of Powder...Mike's in two of them, on an incredibly sick line in both shots...one of them straight down the face of Cody Peak...he's been in Jackson for about a decade. I used to work with Mike in a shop at Sunday River...back when he was a young, high school punk from Mass. IMHO He's one of the best skiers you've never heard of...and proof that eastern bred skiers can grow up to become some of the best "western locals" around. Ben Wheeler, Snowbird local...won the Snowbird freeskiing comp a few years back, also a former Sunday River skier...does the name Simon Dumont ring a bell...X-Games gold twice...another one from Sunday River. But I'll agree that the average east coast resident ripper will have a tough go keeping up with the best western locals...its the time on the terrain...I'm not as comfortable on nasty, exposed steeps now as I was when I lived out there and spent 80-100 days on the hill...but I'm better now in tight east coast trees despite being 10yrs older...time on the terrain. Take a solid eastern skier and transplant them out west for a few years and you've got a recipie for one helluva ripping skier. Some of the best skiers I knew in Vail were originally from the east...Whiteface, Sugarloaf, etc...every year I'll flip through Powder, Ski, or Skiing and see one of them (yeah, okay, its Vail...I know...but there's plenty of "tough" terrain there if you know where to look). Think about it...of all the people you know out there in Aspen, how many were born there...or in Denver? At least half of the people I've met living out west are from the east or midwest...listen to one of those "hard skiing locals" talk for a bit...half the time you'll probably catch an east coast accent.

This just brings up that great age old debate, is it easier for an East Coaster to go West or a West coaster to go East??

Personally, I feel that the East Coaster going West will have an easier time of it. Simply because to accel in the East, you just plain and simple need to really learn to core fundamentals to a higher degree than out West due to the tighter trees and "harder" snow. The West coast crew might ski with a bigger set of "brass ones" from some of the big hucks they do into softer snow, but when you need skis where the big radius sidecut is more of a factor than the edge grip, its just not the same.

What would be a really neat thing to see would be if you could take a half dozen of the best of the West and the best of the East that you've likely never heard of unless you're a local at that mountain and have a 2 day challenge where using the same skis each day, one day out West on some big mtn terrain with all the chutes, bowls, etc you could want, follwed by the next day in the East back country trees, stream beds, etc, etc, etc, and for giggles the last run in the East could be down a rutted out, bullet proof GS course ;)

Now that would be fun to see who comes out on top at the end of those 2 days!
 

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Lloyd...next time in Jackson look up Mike Tierney...or flip through last year's issues of Powder...Mike's in two of them, on an incredibly sick line in both shots...one of them straight down the face of Cody Peak...he's been in Jackson for about a decade. I used to work with Mike in a shop at Sunday River...back when he was a young, high school punk from Mass. IMHO He's one of the best skiers you've never heard of...and proof that eastern bred skiers can grow up to become some of the best "western locals" around. Ben Wheeler, Snowbird local...won the Snowbird freeskiing comp a few years back, also a former Sunday River skier...does the name Simon Dumont ring a bell...X-Games gold twice...another one from Sunday River. But I'll agree that the average east coast resident ripper will have a tough go keeping up with the best western locals...its the time on the terrain...I'm not as comfortable on nasty, exposed steeps now as I was when I lived out there and spent 80-100 days on the hill...but I'm better now in tight east coast trees despite being 10yrs older...time on the terrain. Take a solid eastern skier and transplant them out west for a few years and you've got a recipie for one helluva ripping skier. Some of the best skiers I knew in Vail were originally from the east...Whiteface, Sugarloaf, etc...every year I'll flip through Powder, Ski, or Skiing and see one of them (yeah, okay, its Vail...I know...but there's plenty of "tough" terrain there if you know where to look). Think about it...of all the people you know out there in Aspen, how many were born there...or in Denver? At least half of the people I've met living out west are from the east or midwest...listen to one of those "hard skiing locals" talk for a bit...half the time you'll probably catch an east coast accent.


I agree completely with your statemnt and I thought I covered that in my post:

"I came from the east at the mature age of 23 with a strong head, I got my ass handed to me the first day and after 15 years of 70+/ 20K vert days, I have seen both sides. I am not saying EC skiers can't come compete with the large sustained vert, altitude, etc..... I am saying that there aren't that many. and in the TGR case, the crime wasn't not knowing the aformentioned, the crime was the continued self idolization. Skiers with strong skills will adapt quick they just won't come out of the gate strong. The opinions gained from a couple of pics and videos seemed to prove that Highway Star was not one who could come out and "show us up""

I was speaking generally and did not want to imply that ALL EC skiers had this issue. There is a learning curve and to think you can show up and kick some butt, well there are a small percentage who can adapt that fast. Sorry to offend you! I was not taking a shot at EC skiers
 
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Personally, I feel that the East Coaster going West will have an easier time of it. Simply because to accel in the East, you just plain and simple need to really learn to core fundamentals to a higher degree than out West due to the tighter trees and "harder" snow. The West coast crew might ski with a bigger set of "brass ones" from some of the big hucks they do into softer snow, but when you need skis where the big radius sidecut is more of a factor than the edge grip, its just not the same.

I agree, and from personal expierence. Most of my local ski friends came from the east including Chris Davenport.
 
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I guess all the spouting off about how great a skier he is is what I don't care for in the Highway Star persona on other boards. I know of one AZer that I've skied with quite a bit who...well...wasn't all that impressed when he bumped into HS this season. Also, the "I'm always right" attitude can wear on you, but once you understand the persona (real or not?), he's easier to accept.

Beyond all that, the guy does come up with some interesting discussions and I appreciate his enthusiasm for the sport and some of his unique ideas. I'm willing to give the guy a chance here. He's made it clear to me publicly and privately that he knows how this board differs from others like K-zone and TGR. He's promised to abide by the reasonable "rules" we have here and the mods and I will be fair to him. Yeah, he's opinionated and probably could use some work with his online delivery, but I don't have much of a problem with what he's posted here so far. I've already welcomed him and would like to see him given a chance.

I agree Greg, people grow and evolve, even online. I do admire Mr. Star for his obvious love of the sport and his ideas. I hope he fits in well here. Most of the charging skiers I know are humble and quiet on the hill, they let their perfomance speak.
 

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Highwaystar is pretty funy the way he stirs things up... =Just like Diss...

I have to thank Highwaystar for filling in for me and stirring the pot (albeit from the other "side") over on those threads when I was gone.

I like pot stirrers.
 
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I agree completely with your statemnt and I thought I covered that in my post:

I was speaking generally and did not want to imply that ALL EC skiers had this issue. There is a learning curve and to think you can show up and kick some butt, well there are a small percentage who can adapt that fast. Sorry to offend you! I was not taking a shot at EC skiers

Hey, no offense taken :), just felt like adding my two cents...even said "I'll agree that the average east coast resident ripper will have a tough go keeping up with the best western locals" and wanted to point out that from what I've experienced living out west a good deal of western "local" rippers are transplants.
I don't want to start up the whole east coast west coast thing...whichever way you move you're going to have to adapt...eastern skiers need to get off thier edges, find their bases and tweak their fore aft balance out west and western skiers need to find their edges and figure out how to pressure every cm of the edge waaay more than they ever have out west.
The hedonistic skier in me is aching to live out west again...but the husband/father/son in me has deep roots here in Maine.
 

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This just brings up that great age old debate, is it easier for an East Coaster to go West or a West coaster to go East??

Personally, I feel that the East Coaster going West will have an easier time of it. Simply because to accel in the East, you just plain and simple need to really learn to core fundamentals to a higher degree than out West due to the tighter trees and "harder" snow. The West coast crew might ski with a bigger set of "brass ones" from some of the big hucks they do into softer snow, but when you need skis where the big radius sidecut is more of a factor than the edge grip, its just not the same.

I used to believe the East Coast is better theory until I started spending most of my time in the West, and have become a far better skier. Steeps, mucho vertical, good snow, long seasons etc. is the stuff that will make for a better skier, not ice and tight trees. The "harder snow" (aka ice) doesn't make anyone a better skier, but in fact is just another obstacle to improvement. Tight trees - fine, but try doing slalom spped at not-so-tight trees like Steamboat and see who's better.

No doubt there's many of the "names" have come from the East, which is another indication that talent is talent, no matter where it's from, but you rarely see them coming back. My West Coast and Rockies friends won't even bring their stuff out here, because - well, you know why, right?

And not many areas in the West would give their trails the difficulty ratings they do here just to ego-stroke their clientle. I mean, look at the diamonds and double diamonds up to mid-VT - pitiful - most would barely be blues in CO or UT.
 
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