I just deal with it. I once tried the toe warmer deals, but I didn't like the way it felt. I usually don't have a problem unless it's the coldest of days, which just means a extra stop or two in the lodge.
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How do you keep your feet warm?
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eastcoastpowderhound
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Boot Dryer?
if you want to F-up the layers of foam that make up the inside of your liners by removing your liners every time you go skiing...by all means have at it.
Ask any of Americas Best boot fitters (like me) and they will say the same.
I have been using this for over 17 years.
And not only do they dry the inside of my boots they remove any condensation that might build up between the liner and the shell.
Some where there is a link on how to make a home made one, I will try to post the link when I find it.
I do know what you are talking about, sure some powder can make its way between the liner and shell.
But enough to cause your foot to freeze?
Save the pond skimming until springtime!
Just because your shop PAYS to be included in the ABB marketing program and spends the $$$ with MFU to get that status doesn't mean you have an exclusive to all boot fitting knowledge. I'm a former Cped, have done the MFU Master's course, Associates course and have hired them to do private sessions with the shops I used to work with...and I've had my hands in more than enough boots over the years to know what I'm talking about. Forget about the condensation, if you're not pulling your liners and letting them air dry/air out at least occasionally you're going to have bacteria and some serious funk going on in between those shells and liners...I've worked on enough patrollers, pros, and racers boots to see what happens in that little microclimate when all you use are boot dryers. Along the way, through leakage, condensation or both, you're going to get moisture between the liner and shell that will cause mildew if you don't pull them out from time to time. I pull mine after almost everyday on the hill and I've never had a stock liner come apart.
And my feet don't get wet when I pond skim...I make it to the other side.
trtaylor
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I agree. Seems to work the same way for me. Not sure why, but I suspect is related to circulation.
JasonE
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Uhm... I wasn't talking about the little oval toe warmers you can buy in the lodge - I hate those things because the always bunch up on the socks and make the boot uncomfortable. Those are the ones you put on the top of your toes.
If you notice, in my post I said "FOOT warmers", not toe warmers. I was talking about the full-foot ones that you do indeed stick to the bottom of your foot and they cover the entire foot surface. You don't typically find the full-foot one at the ski shops, but I usually find mine at gas stations or shops that specialize in gear for people who work outdoors in the winter time (plow drivers, etc.)
thinnmann
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My wife and daughter use those toe warmer things.
Nothing really new here, except #1 & 4 below, but in addition to fitting boots & wool/polypro thin socks, I avoid cold toes this way:
Nothing really new here, except #1 & 4 below, but in addition to fitting boots & wool/polypro thin socks, I avoid cold toes this way:
- Run from parked car to lodge for a warm-up.
- Put on ski socks in the lodge just before boots go on.
- Keep torso & head warm to send blood to extremities.
- Ski hard - turn a lot - don't stand around waiting for people!
campgottagopee
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I just go home if my feet get cold
RootDKJ
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This may sound a bit gross, so sorry for that. My feet get very sweaty in my boots. On normal days (mid 30's) it's not really a problem, but on colder days, because my feet sweat, my socks get wet, and then the liner. I usually bring two pairs of socks to the hill. I put the 1st ones on in the morning, and then make a change at lunch. I never wear the same socks I drive to the mountain to ski in. I've tried the anti-perspiration idea with minimal success.
I use a variety of thin liner socks or smartwool ultralights.
I use a variety of thin liner socks or smartwool ultralights.
loafer89
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I had my Hotronics set on the number 4 setting (maximum) for skiing at Crotched and Wachusett this weekend. I find if my feet are warm and toasty the rest of me is happy enough and comfortable.
They keep me warm and comfortable for my ideal skiing temperature range of 0F -
-10F.
They keep me warm and comfortable for my ideal skiing temperature range of 0F -
-10F.
SIKSKIER
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Some good info here and some real misinformatiom.There is no way battery boot heaters will deform your boots in any way.Unless you have incredibly dry feet and boots that won't let in any snow or moisture,you MUST take your liners out at least every once in a while to completely dry under your bladders.Unless of course you only use them once every month or so.
I have found that my feet have gotten progressively colder as I get older and I attribute that to worsening circulation in my feet.It got too much to take last year so here's what I did.
First,as has been posted here,I always put my ski socks on right before I ski.I use antiperspirant but even this did not keep my feet from getting wet.What I did find even after using boot dryers(I use a forced air dryer which in opinion is much more effective than thermal) is that even though my liners were dry,I discovered after pulling out my liners that the boot had lots of water under the sole plate.I mean I could literally pour it out!I also used chemical pads and they helped but as has been mentioned,they need O2 and they would fade quick.These procedures helped but could not keep my feet from really bothering me when the temp was below 15ish.Last year I broke down and bought boot heaters.If you have issues like I had folks,don't even think about buying these things.I'm a new man.I bought the Hotfoot brand and was very happy.I installed my elements in the bladder and on top of the foot bed.They come with a thin cambrelle foot membrane that sticks on your footbed.I made a small hole in the toebox of the bladder to run the wires and duct taped the wires to inside of the bladder so the connector would stick out the back top of my bladder a few inches.Here's what I like about my set-up.I can still pull my bladders out without disturbing the wires and I bought extension wires that I run inside my ski pants where they connect to the batteries which simply clip to my waist/belt part of the pants.The beauty of this set-up is that the batteries work better because they stay warm under my coat and next to my body and they can't be knocked off my boots in a fall.The package I bought came with 4 batteries and 2 chargers(2 bats charge on one charger) so I have heat all day.Best purchase I have made in a long time at $149 @ hotfoot.com.
I have found that my feet have gotten progressively colder as I get older and I attribute that to worsening circulation in my feet.It got too much to take last year so here's what I did.
First,as has been posted here,I always put my ski socks on right before I ski.I use antiperspirant but even this did not keep my feet from getting wet.What I did find even after using boot dryers(I use a forced air dryer which in opinion is much more effective than thermal) is that even though my liners were dry,I discovered after pulling out my liners that the boot had lots of water under the sole plate.I mean I could literally pour it out!I also used chemical pads and they helped but as has been mentioned,they need O2 and they would fade quick.These procedures helped but could not keep my feet from really bothering me when the temp was below 15ish.Last year I broke down and bought boot heaters.If you have issues like I had folks,don't even think about buying these things.I'm a new man.I bought the Hotfoot brand and was very happy.I installed my elements in the bladder and on top of the foot bed.They come with a thin cambrelle foot membrane that sticks on your footbed.I made a small hole in the toebox of the bladder to run the wires and duct taped the wires to inside of the bladder so the connector would stick out the back top of my bladder a few inches.Here's what I like about my set-up.I can still pull my bladders out without disturbing the wires and I bought extension wires that I run inside my ski pants where they connect to the batteries which simply clip to my waist/belt part of the pants.The beauty of this set-up is that the batteries work better because they stay warm under my coat and next to my body and they can't be knocked off my boots in a fall.The package I bought came with 4 batteries and 2 chargers(2 bats charge on one charger) so I have heat all day.Best purchase I have made in a long time at $149 @ hotfoot.com.
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Starter Jackets Rule!
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Stop being stupid my thinking that you know one thing about me and who I work for, I worked for jeff rich and along side greg hoffman(ring a bell)?long before the abbf was even though about!
I spent 3 years racing on the europa cup and to feed my addiction I had to work evenings and nights for such company's as Swix Rachile dynastar lange salomon San Marco(now head) that is where I cut my teeth and gained a foot in the door so i could gain my early working knowledge on boot fitting. i have foamed and siliconed over 100 pairs of boots, I have made over the same amounts of footbeds.
And not once did i say that if you pulled out your liners that they would "fall Apart"!
Every time you pull out the liner you run the risk that the foam/felt padding will deform.
Hey did you ever think of inverting your boots at night to let the massive amounts of water that collected in between the shell and liner could just drain out?
Gravity is not just a good idea it's the Law!
Yea, not sure on the prewired, but I know most Atomic boots now have the spot in the liner for em.
Starter Jackets Rule!
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Glenn this is the best post in the entire thread!You need socks made from a "Sham Wow" :lol:
I think this is the website: http://www.hotfoot.biz/home.htm
Great post by the way. I may end up with these myself. Thanks for going into detail regarding how you installed them.
That ad cracks me up. Classic sales pitch. I almost want one when I see the ad. "It's made in Germany...you know the Germans always make good stuff...."
hardline
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here i fixed it for you
im 90% sure it that same company that was selling them in the early 90's. that german line cracks me up everytime.
campgottagopee
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+1---Work great for sb zero slidin
RootDKJ
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eastcoastpowderhound
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Stop being stupid my thinking that you know one thing about me and who I work for, I worked for jeff rich and along side greg hoffman(ring a bell)?long before the abbf was even though about!
I spent 3 years racing on the europa cup and to feed my addiction I had to work evenings and nights for such company's as Swix Rachile dynastar lange salomon San Marco(now head) that is where I cut my teeth and gained a foot in the door so i could gain my early working knowledge on boot fitting. i have foamed and siliconed over 100 pairs of boots, I have made over the same amounts of footbeds.
And not once did i say that if you pulled out your liners that they would "fall Apart"!
Every time you pull out the liner you run the risk that the foam/felt padding will deform.
Hey did you ever think of inverting your boots at night to let the massive amounts of water that collected in between the shell and liner could just drain out?
Gravity is not just a good idea it's the Law!
fall apart..."F-up"...semantics. You're the one who dropped the ABBF reference like it was the holy grail of bootfitting..its a marketing program. doesn't mean the list doesn't have some great shops on it but it implies that its a listing of the top rated boot shops by some independent outside source.
Thanks for the resume, but I'm not hiring.
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