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There's getting UP the mountain, there's traversing ACROSS perhaps hundreds of yards of flats, there's maneuvering through endless fields of uneven uphill/downhill terrain etc...

Yeah XC skis are a FAR superior snow tool for those things as compared to alpine skis. But I still think alpine skis are OK. What was the OP about again?
 

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You know all of this of course, and are being intentionally obtuse ostensibly for the purpose of making a self-righteous point that doesn't need making in the first place. Nobody is saying there is anything wrong or bad with or about snowboarding, but to claim somehow that a snowboard is as superior of an alpine tool as skis is simply ridiculous.

No. I disagree with your "facts". No amount of bullshit you spew is going to change that. And you disagree with me. Not going to waste my time further with this discussion. Have fun sliding on "factually" the best tools for snow.
 

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No. I disagree with your "facts". No amount of bullshit you spew is going to change that.

Interesting "bullshit".

So moving across a 1/3 mile flat section on a snowboard is as efficient as doing so on skis?

So moving up a 45 yard hill section to a plateau is as efficient on a snowboard as it is on skis?

So the world is flat and the moon is made of cheese?
 

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Sounds like my entire week in Kashmir.. Add in the altitude while your at it... :)

In fact it sounds like my last trip to Jackson too.. Spent most of the week OB on split.

One thing is yes - on a splitboard you need to understand that things are different between 1 and 2 planks and different lines may be thought of for approaches and exits... Traverses do suck and they need to maintain some downhill because we can't skate - problem with traversin is it can cramp you up being in that posisition so you need to be able to switch to relieve the pain.. But I can traverse the headwall at Tucks pretty well.. Have gone from Sluice into the Chute a bunch of times.. Just need speed for any little uphills..
Once you "split" a board, aren't you turning them into skis and therefore admitting that 2 skis are better than one board? I have never heard of skiers locking their skis together because they suddenly needed a snowboard.
 

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Once you "split" a board, aren't you turning them into skis and therefore admitting that 2 skis are better than one board? I have never heard of skiers locking their skis together because they suddenly needed a snowboard.

haha... funny..
All that matters is what happens when your going down the hill...
Splits and snowshoes and skins and crampons are just tools to get to the top...

I do kid some of my hardcore skier friends that slalom water ski....
 

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Once you "split" a board, aren't you turning them into skis and therefore admitting that 2 skis are better than one board?

Oh dear God, noez.

This was the (rather) obvious point I was going to make, but didnt because I didnt want to throw a handgrenade down a narrow hallway.

Detonation imminent.......

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This whole debate is so fucking stupid I can't stand it. As a snowboarder, skis surely do look like more "efficient" mountain "tools". Right tool for the right job right? You also have 2 fucking poles to push you around. So what I can gather from this topic is if a. You want a tool get a ski, and b. if you want to have fun get a snowboard. I snowboard because it is fun. I do not give a flying fuck if you think those 2 planks are more efficient. At the end of the day you are not changing anyone's mind either way. Rather than sitting her debating this dumb fucking topic, Go find some snow to slide. Next topic please.
 

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This whole debate is so fucking stupid I can't stand it. As a snowboarder, skis surely do look like more "efficient" mountain "tools". Right tool for the right job right? You also have 2 fucking poles to push you around. So what I can gather from this topic is if a. You want a tool get a ski, and b. if you want to have fun get a snowboard. I snowboard because it is fun. I do not give a flying fuck if you think those 2 planks are more efficient. At the end of the day you are not changing anyone's mind either way. Rather than sitting her debating this dumb fucking topic, Go find some snow to slide. Next topic please.

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It would be nice if people would read the article.. then look at my supposed inflammatory remarks about Skis being a superior tool and youguns not seeing skiing as ghey. NOT ONE person came out and said skiing was never ghey. Only thatskis were not a better tool.. I did not say snow boarding was ghey or that people should not do it etc.. Only the FACT that skis are more versatile as a reason why some would cross over or start out on skis. I think what we have here are perpetually offended snowboarders mixed in with an over sensitive (to the whole issue) skiing crowd. I do both to some extent but my skills at one are far more refined than the other. They both have pros and cons and I never really wanted to get into that entire issue as I always assumed it was a given.
 

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I take issue with your use of "ghey"..
 

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You ladies going out today.. 24000 vertical between 10 and noon for me.
 

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Late to the party!

I am surprised that no one mentioned the rise of twin tips! I read another article that discussed the migration from snowboarding with many newer skiers turning in that direction. Twin tips in the park has gotten sexy per se. In addition, back country skiing has gotten much more visiblity especially since the more successful movie companies are exposing this sport becuase it films nice.

Personally I do not really care! Our family is a mixed bag when it come to skiing and snowboarding!
 
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