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Off Season Conditioning

MogulQueen

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Did a complete round last summer, and a little bit in the fall, but fell off during the ski season-- the worst time. My fitness peaked in November/December and went downhill from there--Feb and beyond was the worst because my skiing days became fewer and fewer- winter weight gain and loss of tone was not insignificant.

Started again last week- plan to do one round now, and another in the fall.

Week one is hell, week two and thereafter get progressively better- I am finishing week two and already feel quite good.

I made the same mistake! I made it through the 90 days and ended just before the ski season started. I was in kick ass shape. Then I slacked doing an occasional workout here and there hoping ski season would keep me in shape. Not the case. My legs are still in good shape, but the rest of it is definately not as strong. Plyo kicked my ass yesterday! Must be difference muscle groups working.
 

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When I did p90x 2 years ago I was in pretty good shape to begin with ( several MTB rides a week and Judo 3 days a week) and the workout still kicked my ass! If you have been fairly inactive for a while it might be a good idea to spend a couple of weeks to a month to up your fitness level before you start the program. Not trying to scare you, just want to make sure you ready to succeed.

Have you taken the fitness test yet?
Were you able to do other activities at the same time? Just wondering because I need to keep up on my Tae Kwon Do workouts as well (I'm testing for my next rank in the fall).

I'm completely out of shape (two workouts a week just maintain what little I have) but I have been considering P90x as a way to get into shape.
 

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Were you able to do other activities at the same time? Just wondering because I need to keep up on my Tae Kwon Do workouts as well (I'm testing for my next rank in the fall).

I'm completely out of shape (two workouts a week just maintain what little I have) but I have been considering P90x as a way to get into shape.

I was doing Judo (2 to 3 days a week) & P90x at the same time, probably not the best idea looking back. Probably directly lead to the shoulder / ac joint injury received during one of the P90x workouts. I would say that it really depends on what kind of shape your in already, how serious you train TKD, and how rough your DoJang is. Judo practice and espcially Judo free sparring (randori) can be pretty brutal on the body. P90X really boosted my cardio and strength for Judo. But I never gave my body any recovery time and the constant slamming into the mat from being thrown and joint technicques really took a toll. I knew I tweaked my shoulder at Judo one night, and it would have been no big deal if i took several days off to recover like ussual. Well i was so worried about missing a day of p90x that I went right back to my workout the next day and really messed up the left A/C joint while doing pull-ups. Actually had to do a little PT for the injury.
 

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I was doing Judo (2 to 3 days a week) & P90x at the same time, probably not the best idea looking back. Probably directly lead to the shoulder / ac joint injury received during one of the P90x workouts. I would say that it really depends on what kind of shape your in already, how serious you train TKD, and how rough your DoJang is. Judo practice and espcially Judo free sparring (randori) can be pretty brutal on the body. P90X really boosted my cardio and strength for Judo. But I never gave my body any recovery time and the constant slamming into the mat from being thrown and joint technicques really took a toll. I knew I tweaked my shoulder at Judo one night, and it would have been no big deal if i took several days off to recover like usual. Well i was so worried about missing a day of p90x that I went right back to my workout the next day and really messed up the left A/C joint while doing pull-ups. Actually had to do a little PT for the injury.
I understand about the Judo...we don't have mats so we don't do much training in falling, but we did have one special class that I took a few years ago and my left shoulder was sore for several weeks after that.

For the most part the TKD workouts are what I make of them...at this point I don't get much one on one "instruction" so it's really a matter of how hard I want to work. I usually work as hard as I can (otherwise it's a waste of my 2 hours) but I know I need some conditioning to take it to the next level.

Did you find that it was just the stress and injuries that was the issue? Did the P90x workouts make you too tired for the Judo workouts?.
 

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I understand about the Judo...we don't have mats so we don't do much training in falling, but we did have one special class that I took a few years ago and my left shoulder was sore for several weeks after that.

For the most part the TKD workouts are what I make of them...at this point I don't get much one on one "instruction" so it's really a matter of how hard I want to work. I usually work as hard as I can (otherwise it's a waste of my 2 hours) but I know I need some conditioning to take it to the next level.

Did you find that it was just the stress and injuries that was the issue? Did the P90x workouts make you too tired for the Judo workouts?.

It actually made the Judo workouts seem easy. My cardio and strength were thru the roof. Guys that I was pretty matched with for years past all hated how much stronger I was. I was holing my own with guys much larger, several weight classes above me. It was just the lack of recovery time that did me in.
 

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I understand about the Judo...we don't have mats so we don't do much training in falling, but we did have one special class that I took a few years ago and my left shoulder was sore for several weeks after that.

For the most part the TKD workouts are what I make of them...at this point I don't get much one on one "instruction" so it's really a matter of how hard I want to work. I usually work as hard as I can (otherwise it's a waste of my 2 hours) but I know I need some conditioning to take it to the next level.

Did you find that it was just the stress and injuries that was the issue? Did the P90x workouts make you too tired for the Judo workouts?.

Seeing how you train TKD, skip the P90x cardio kick boxing routine. Even when I followed that routine while using my heavy bag it barley got my heart rate going. I replaced that work out with a night of Judo. If there was no class that night I did a 2nd round of plyometrics.
 

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picked up P90X and going to give it a try.

It is awesome if you stick with it. I only make it 30 days and then quit. The diet is the most important part and for exercise junk food addicts like me its tough to keep that going. But I have a huge place for tony in my heart.
 

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I will be swimming, hiking, biking and running. Also fishing. Now if I could just forget about potato chips life would be good :)
 

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I gave up lifting weights...just started hurting too much..bad knees and both shoulders...started doing Bikram yoga..the one in the 105 degree room for 90 minutes..been doing that 3 to 4 times a week...and...no more pain and my skiing has improved 3 fold...I'm so much better in the moguls and my stamina is way up...best thing I ever did!!! even survived skinning up 1700 vertical from 9000 to 10700 feet in Utah last Jan...damn near killed me but I made it...
 

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I gave up lifting weights...just started hurting too much..bad knees and both shoulders...started doing Bikram yoga..the one in the 105 degree room for 90 minutes..been doing that 3 to 4 times a week...and...no more pain and my skiing has improved 3 fold...

That sounds pretty crazy. I'm curious what the problem is with your shoulders and does the yoga include any push-up style moves in the routine?
 

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if nice weather, will run to work (6 mi) ride at lunch (15-20mi) and run home....or i'll leave early, ride to work, can get 30mi in, lunchtime run, and ride home (6mi)

weekends are waterskiing, sup'ing, surfing, sailing and blending frozen drinks on the beach....
 

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been ramping things up a bit the past few weeks with more cardio. I've been trying to get in 30 minutes of cardio 5-6 days per week and I lift M,W,Fri

I need to focus on my diet a lot more. Through exercise alone I was able to bring my weight from 210-215 down to 190 over the past year and a half. Been pretty much stuck at 190 since. Going to cut out a bunch of carbs and try and push down to 175-180, which I think is the right weight for my frame.
 

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picked up P90X and going to give it a try.

i'm disgusted with myself.

on march 20 i hurt my elbow while skiing and it still hasn't healed (diagnosed by dr as tendinitis (aka tennis elbow)). until about 3 weeks ago i could barely pickup a 2 liter bottle of soda with my right hand without excruciating pain. still hurts just making a fist.

i've done nothing in terms of a workout except for playing softball (which is why my elbow won't heal) and as a result -
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