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Off Season Conditioning

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Longboarded my ass off in this off season and lost 20lbs so who knows if my gear will fit...dont even wanna know how many miles I did.
 

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Okay, so got just about over the calf pull- and then slightly pulled a hamstring yesterday... was sore but workable today... fortunate to be in recovery week of insanity (still workouts, but not nearly as crazy). Also have had a sore achilles since August but that loosens up after warm ups... must be middle age setting in.
 

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Into Week 3 of Insanity. My wind is back and I can actually stretch out the hammys etc. AND - Near the end of the workouts I'm not spending nearly as long spilled out on the floor like a three year old in complete temper tantrum melt down mode. This program really works your heart.
 

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This running on the road things sucks @ss. Last week my achilles was botheringme so I opted for some mountain bike rides and treadmill. This week the back of my left knee if killing me after running on the road yesterday. Back to the doldrums of the gym today to wait out this pain in my knee. :-(
 

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This running on the road things sucks @ss. Last week my achilles was botheringme so I opted for some mountain bike rides and treadmill. This week the back of my left knee if killing me after running on the road yesterday. Back to the doldrums of the gym today to wait out this pain in my knee. :-(

If you haven't run in awhile check out a couch to 5k program. Eases you back into running and helps prevent injuries for overuse at the start.
 

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This running on the road things sucks @ss. Last week my achilles was botheringme so I opted for some mountain bike rides and treadmill. This week the back of my left knee if killing me after running on the road yesterday. Back to the doldrums of the gym today to wait out this pain in my knee. :-(

Seems like everyone I know that runs hurts themselves doing so... Doesn't exactly make me want to take it up...
 

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I am starting to get worried about ski season.
Back at the end of June, I developed a right leg tibial stress fracture about 4" above my ankle. I'd been training for my first half marathon and overdid it, running 50% more miles in may vs last may, and a similar pace in june. All on hilly pavement.

so I stopped running and rode my bike a lot instead all July and August. But bicycling does not give me even close to the same exertion, even at 18-20 mph consistent pace.

I waited 9+ weeks to even try a light run again. After a couple of weeks of short, intermittent/light runs, the pain is back. Not throbbing, but clearly not healed. Very frustrating. Can't even do the 5 mile race I've already paid for and is a month away.

Really hope it doesn't interfere with skiing. :angry:
 

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Into Week 3 of Insanity. My wind is back and I can actually stretch out the hammys etc. AND - Near the end of the workouts I'm not spending nearly as long spilled out on the floor like a three year old in complete temper tantrum melt down mode. This program really works your heart.

Mike-- Since I repeated week 2- and hence am currently in recovery during week 6 instead of 5- I tried the MAX workouts at the end of week 5 to guage what was to come later-- after each it was back to the fetal position in a pool of sweat....quite similar to the first week or so of the program.
 

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Seems like everyone I know that runs hurts themselves doing so... Doesn't exactly make me want to take it up...

Yup... running is how I hurt my achilles in august.. and it is still tweaked and only feels okay after serious warm up.
 

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If you haven't run in awhile check out a couch to 5k program. Eases you back into running and helps prevent injuries for overuse at the start.

Being a life long athlete, I had to try to bang out a 9 minute mile average on my runs. But running on the treadmill last week was much easier on my joints. I might hit up the elliptical today.

Seems like everyone I know that runs hurts themselves doing so... Doesn't exactly make me want to take it up...

I feared running for years. But I have to admit, I have really enjoyed my lunchtime runs at work. The time of day and duration of the work out has been great. Just need to get past these aches and pains....
 

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I am starting to get worried about ski season.
Back at the end of June, I developed a right leg tibial stress fracture about 4" above my ankle. I'd been training for my first half marathon and overdid it, running 50% more miles in may vs last may, and a similar pace in june. All on hilly pavement.

so I stopped running and rode my bike a lot instead all July and August. But bicycling does not give me even close to the same exertion, even at 18-20 mph consistent pace.

I waited 9+ weeks to even try a light run again. After a couple of weeks of short, intermittent/light runs, the pain is back. Not throbbing, but clearly not healed. Very frustrating. Can't even do the 5 mile race I've already paid for and is a month away.

Really hope it doesn't interfere with skiing. :angry:

That really sucks. Have you seen a Dr or PT lately-- maybe they might have some suggestions to strengthen or just stay in shape while healing without aggravating it...
 

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I feared running for years. But I have to admit, I have really enjoyed my lunchtime runs at work. The time of day and duration of the work out has been great. Just need to get past these aches and pains....

I totally get the appeal of running, I've been considering taking it up for a while. I even installed a couch to 5K program on my phone. I hear of so many people hurting themselves though, that it makes me nervous...
 

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Being a life long athlete, I had to try to bang out a 9 minute mile average on my runs. But running on the treadmill last week was much easier on my joints. I might hit up the elliptical today.

I feared running for years. But I have to admit, I have really enjoyed my lunchtime runs at work. The time of day and duration of the work out has been great. Just need to get past these aches and pains....

I started up running a lot last summer. When I was in the Army the PT test was 2miles so I figured if I can go out and do that I'm good. But being older and fatter it really started to hurt the joints. Backed off and started a C25K program (started around week 5, since it does start way slow) and it really helped my joints catch up to what my mind and muscles wanted to do.
 

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I am starting to get worried about ski season.
Back at the end of June, I developed a right leg tibial stress fracture about 4" above my ankle. I'd been training for my first half marathon and overdid it, running 50% more miles in may vs last may, and a similar pace in june. All on hilly pavement.

so I stopped running and rode my bike a lot instead all July and August. But bicycling does not give me even close to the same exertion, even at 18-20 mph consistent pace.

I waited 9+ weeks to even try a light run again. After a couple of weeks of short, intermittent/light runs, the pain is back. Not throbbing, but clearly not healed. Very frustrating. Can't even do the 5 mile race I've already paid for and is a month away.

Really hope it doesn't interfere with skiing. :angry:

You need less impact at least for a while.Try finding a tougher bike ride and use the Elliptical at the gym.Take it from an old guy, not being fully healed and pushing things just leads to more issues later. :spread:
 

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I officially love this post-knee rehab training program. Some quick footwork (although the knee feels like a dead fish) and squats..then lunges...then some squats...did I mention the squats?
 

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I just laugh at what my "ideal" weight based on the Body Mass Index charts should be! In theory based on that ridiculous chart that many like to use to measure one's "health", at 6'3" to be "healthy" I should be between 150 and 190 lbs.

BMI is absolutely moronic.

It is without question, the dumbest statistic that I can think of that is actually taken seriously by people. And the only reason people "take it serious", is because they simply havent taken the time to investigate it to see how stupid it is.

The guy who invented it was a math/stats guy, and not a fitness, health, or science expert, and the math behind it even admits that it is a bit arbitrary.

If you look at BMI, people like Michael Jordan, Peyton Manning, or Mario Lemieux would have been considered "overweight" in their prime. ROFL

It's mindboggling that the US government STILL uses BMI to tell us that "over 1/3 of all Americans are obese". LOL. Ummm. NO, no they're not. And not even close really. In fact, it's dang hard to NOT be labeled as "overweight" on the BMI chart. So the next time you see some dumb story on the news about how all Americans are fat, now you can just laugh, because I assure you it's based on BMI.
 

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Very stupid.

I weighed 195 lb in high school, and 195 today. My 195 today is way leaner and more muscular than my 195 in high school.

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I don't think BMI is completely useless-- I'm not aware of any other cost efficient, quick and easy to determine general guideline as to healty weight... if you understand the bias and limitations-- it assumes a sedentary lifestyle (a majority of this country)- it has a place as a generalized guide. For the inactive it provides a modestly accurate snapshot of whether they are possibly overweight or not-- for the active or athletes, they are more inclined to be aware of other factors that affect this determination- and more likely to use other tools to determine thier health/weight/fitness level. Better than nothing in my book, and considering the health risks associated with obesity it is better to have something out there to at least put persons on notice they might be at risk, which should spur further more accurate inquiry using other methods. Certainly not appropriate to be used for any medical classification/insurance risk purposes.
 

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I don't think BMI is completely useless-- I'm not aware of any other cost efficient, quick and easy to determine general guideline as to healty weight...if you understand the bias and limitations-- it assumes a sedentary lifestyle (a majority of this country)- it has a place as a generalized guide.

But see, that's just the problem. First, I think the only reason it still exists is that it is "easy" to arrive at numerically, but that doesnt make it correct. Secondly, it doesnt give even a general guideline to healthy weight IMO, for most people it's just wrong. Worse? If you dont realize how ridiculous it is, it could really mess with your head making you self-conscious or thinking you're a fat-fatty when you're not (SEE: Women). Lastly, I dont believe over 1/3 of Americans are literally obese, I believe that Americans have for years now been led to believe that so many Americans are obese based solely on BMI, that it is ingrained in our collective heads as fact, even though it is not so. Obese is extremely overweight, and logically just your daily enounters on the street, in the mall, at the baseball game, etc.... should reassure you that more than 1 in 3 people are not obese.
 
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But see, that's just the problem. First, I think the only reason it still exists is that it is "easy" to arrive at numerically, but that doesnt make it correct. Secondly, it doesnt give even a general guideline to healthy weight IMO, for most people it's just wrong. Worse? If you dont realize how ridiculous it is, it could really mess with your head making you self-conscious or thinking you're a fat-fatty when you're not (SEE: Women). Lastly, I dont believe over 1/3 of Americans are literally obese, I believe that Americans have for years now been led to believe that so many Americans are obese based solely on BMI, that it is ingrained in our collective heads as fact, even though it is not so. Obese is extremely overweight, and logically just your daily enounters on the street, in the mall, at the baseball game, etc.... should reassure you that more than 1 in 3 people are not obese.

Not sure its wrong for as many people as you think-- sure for athletes, and for active folks (weekend warriers, people who actually work-work for a living, etc) and some body types- it may be wrong... but that is probably a smaller number than you give it credit for. While I don't believe 1/3 of America is obese-- America is getting fatter year by year-- while the CDC does use the BMI when tracking obesity-- you can't tell me that the dramatic increase in BMI across the board in America over the last 20 years is due to muscle mass added by weight training or that americans are gaining bone weight. (Yes- some of it is due to increased reporting response and accuracy, I am sure- but not enough to offset the trend). As to the risk of body image issues-- while admittedly outside my area of knowledge-- I bet the number of people who might benefit from responsibly addressing a possible weight issue signaled by BMI (with follow up analyses) greatly outnumbers those who might irresponsibly blindly rely on it to the detriment of thier health. Not that there aren't a lot of the latter-- just more of the former.

As to strolling through the mall-- I assume from your profile that you are strolling through a mall in Manhatten-- try strolling through a Mall in AL, MS, LA, or even parts of OH or PA. I don't think 1/3 is THAT far off. My experience in those malls suggests it is possible that 1/3 of America is at least overweight (maybe not obese).
 
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