Off Season Conditioning

[Madroch]

Great point, but it's not easy to do. BMI? C'est simple, which is IMO why it persists regardless of how dumb it is. Hell, waist size has even been demonstrated to be a better indicator than BMI.

Hip size is apparently a better indicator even than waist. The Body Adiposity index uses hip and height. Apparently, I have a fat a$$... as that index brings my body fat percentage up much higher than using every other do it yourself at home estimator out there...although reading up on teh BAI there is some lack of data for caucasians, and it has been shown to be unreliable for certain body types.... but it appears better than BMI for must muscle bound folks.

http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/body-adiposity-index-calculator.aspx

 

[Grassi21]

Damn, minor set back today... Couldn't do my lunch time cardio and they had chili cheese fries in the cafe.

 

[Nick]

Damn, minor set back today... Couldn't do my lunch time cardio and they had chili cheese fries in the cafe.

You might as well just hang it up. I'd order a bacon pizza and drink a half-dozen Octoberfests.

 

[jrmagic]

You might as well just hang it up. I'd order a bacon pizza and drink a half-dozen Octoberfests.

I'd say that's some sound advice:beer: then you can get back on the wagon tomorrow.

 

[bvibert]

You might as well just hang it up. I'd order a bacon pizza and drink a half-dozen Octoberfests.

I'd say that's some sound advice:beer: then you can get back on the wagon tomorrow.

Love the support around here! :beer:

 

[wa-loaf]

You might as well just hang it up. I'd order a bacon pizza and drink a half-dozen Octoberfests.

I'd say that's some sound advice:beer: then you can get back on the wagon tomorrow.

Love the support around here! :beer:

I do the same thing, once you go off the rails on a particular day you must embrace it. Check out Sat on my calorie tracker ... and I didn't enter everything:

 

[Grassi21]

You might as well just hang it up. I'd order a bacon pizza and drink a half-dozen Octoberfests.

I'd say that's some sound advice:beer: then you can get back on the wagon tomorrow.

Love the support around here! :beer:

I do the same thing, once you go off the rails on a particular day you must embrace it. Check out Sat on my calorie tracker ... and I didn't enter everything:

With this overwhelming response its pizza for dinner tonight! :beer:

 

[wa-loaf]

With this overwhelming response its pizza for dinner tonight! :beer:

Don't forget the beer. Lots and lots of beer ....

 

[deadheadskier]

waloaf

I'm assuming net calories means total calories consumed minus exercise?

What program are you using again to track this?

 

[wa-loaf]

waloaf

I'm assuming net calories means total calories consumed minus exercise?

What program are you using again to track this?

Yeah, that's correct. Shooting for about 1800 calories a day. I think the site over estimates the calories I burn in exercise. Either way I'm coming in under 1800 consistently which gives me about a 1lb a week weight loss.

It's on the Livestrong website and has a corresponding iPhone app.

 

[deadheadskier]

I definitely don't trust the calorie burnt trackers on the machines at the gym. Doesn't seem possible that I can burn 1100 calories on an eliptical machine in an hour.

 

[jrmagic]

I definitely don't trust the calorie burnt trackers on the machines at the gym. Doesn't seem possible that I can burn 1100 calories on an eliptical machine in an hour.

+1 Weight does impact the number of calories burned but there's a whole bunch of varables that aren't being taken into consideration there.

 

[Madroch]

I use a HRM with a chest strap-- but not sure those are terribly accurate either... but my numbers are much lower on the HRM than on any gym machine I have ever been on, so at least I may not be overestimating as much with the HRM.

 

[Nick]

I use Sparkdiet.com and their calorie tracker, they have an app too. it's pretty good. I haven't been perfect about tracking it though, but I'm going on Day #11 of no-cheating, except Saturday when I had 2000 calories, 800 of which were light- beer . Every other day has been ~1200 - 1400 cals and I've dropped almost 5 lb. in the last 10 days.

 

[Nick]

I definitely don't trust the calorie burnt trackers on the machines at the gym. Doesn't seem possible that I can burn 1100 calories on an eliptical machine in an hour.

I run at around 8MPH (pace of 7.5 min miles), I run 5 miles and it is right around 750 cals burned. At that pace I burn about 150 cal / mile. I'm 5'10, 193 lb right now, and that takes me 40 min.

I think 1000 in an hour is a reasonable number, if you are really pushing it.

 

[wa-loaf]

I use a HRM with a chest strap-- but not sure those are terribly accurate either... but my numbers are much lower on the HRM than on any gym machine I have ever been on, so at least I may not be overestimating as much with the HRM.

I have a HRM monitor and I hate it. Maybe it's my manboobs or something, but it chafes like a mofo so I don't bother with it. And I don't think the wrist based ones will do a good enough job.

 

[wa-loaf]

I run at around 8MPH (pace of 7.5 min miles), I run 5 miles and it is right around 750 cals burned. At that pace I burn about 150 cal / mile. I'm 5'10, 193 lb right now, and that takes me 40 min.

I think 1000 in an hour is a reasonable number, if you are really pushing it.

That's running, I don't think a low impact elliptical will get yo those numbers. 7.5 min mile is fast!

 

[Tooth]

The HRM are pretty invaluable. Its good to know what the little ticker is doing so youre not wasting your time. Running on the treadmill or the elliptical is great. I am sure you have heard it before but doing intervals on those machines can be pretty damn rewarding in terms of results. Getting your heart up and down throughout a 35 min workout is way better in terms of both long term and short terms calorie burning vs a lower HR over an hour. You have to work though. From all Ive been reading lately its the 3D or multiplanar interval workouts that are going to be the next level of fitness. Its the new crossfit, P90x2, insanity asylum, type stuff. Pretty tough but super rewarding in a short time frame.
Now if only I can not eat the damn garlic mustard pretzels, the cheddar cheese pretzels, and some Sams during tonights World Series I'll be happy. I'm pretty weak sometimes.

 

[Sky]

regarding calories burnt on an eliptical (or other "machine)....1) I think it's more valuable as a measure for itself vs your actual calorie count. If you use that same type of machine...your performance change from day to day is still measurable. 2) I work with some serious folks whose job it is to develop routines for soldiers, and a decent benchmark for an eliptical is 500 calories in 30 minutes (per the machine). That's not an "elite" value necessarily....just a good benchmark. I haven't worked on an eliptical for 30 minutes for a while....too busy doing "circuit" stuff....3 - 4 minutes on each phase OR...multiple events on the rowing machine (5k meters by doing 2K, 1.5K, 1K, and a 500) with two minutes between events, aiming for 2-min/500 meters or better. When I've done 30 minutes on the eliptical....500 cal in 30 minutes is a pretty decent workout (maybe that's what being 56 thinks :> ).

 

[benwhiteskis]

are you guys really counting calories? If you want to do real preseason training, it's mostly about how much plyos you can do. Think about this in terms of skiing. If a run takes 5 minutes, try to be able to do 5 minutes solid of plyos (basically jumping around). Calories are counted by middle-aged people whose physical activity for the week is loading their kids into the suburban to go to soccer practice.