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[skiNEwhere]

Paved parking lots. Do not understand why many ski areas do not have them.

Repair and upkeep costs? A plow can't really take a chunk out of a dirt lot, but once there are a few cracks, water seeps in, freezes, there's a good snowfall and the plow starts uprooting the parking lot making 6" pot holes. At least that's my guess.

 

[steamboat1]

Paved parking lots. Do not understand why many ski areas do not have them.

Stowe paved the Mansfield parking lot this summer so you can cross that one off the list. They even added stripes

 

[dlague]

I will look for that thread, but I understand the argument well. If you isolate what it means though specifically for Burke, I still find the argument I am making valid. Basically, that something is getting funded which otherwise wouldn't (ie., we both agree here). From this, there is a fighting chance that this mountain survives, and perhaps even thrives (well, as long as Q is around I know that is unlikely but, maybe in the future). I don't believe that the foreigners have enough rights that they will essentially come in and make the mountain so liable that the whole thing goes under. There are lawyers and language to protect against that. Even in that event, then that liability will get flushed during Chapter 7/11, and the asset that will end up on the block after the bankruptcy period is completed (or perhaps during it) will be a mountain plus a hotel, not just a mountain.

When I mentioned EB-5 Visas, I did not intend it to be a huge discussion. I liked the old school Jay Peak. Worked there when I was younger and it just feels different now.


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[Abubob]

Raise the summit of Cannon to just over 10K!

With the proportionally wider mountain base this would put it within a ten minute drive from my house. I'm for it!

 

[Abubob]

My one change: Move that grey building on the left .... to somewhere else!

IMG_6876 by Bob Misu, on Flickr

 

[BenedictGomez]

Paved parking lots. Do not understand why many ski areas do not have them.

Why would they?

I'm not really seeing the benefit versus the upkeep cost or even the purpose etc.. It's not like a ski resort is a business environment where people are ruining their leather soled shoes without them, or a place where stones are going to kick up on a $150,000 sports car (well, except for the Lambo I saw at Whiteface last year, but that's a pretty extreme outlier).

Come to think of it, I don't believe I've ever been to a ski resort that has paved parking. Maybe I have and just dont remember.

 

[Tin]

Stowe paved the Mansfield parking lot this summer so you can cross that one off the list. They even added stripes

Hope they created a good drainage system or it will be one big pond. Bush also has paved lots.

 

[skiNEwhere]

Come to think of it, I don't believe I've ever been to a ski resort that has paved parking.

Vail has a parking garage. But you also have to pay like $25 for the day. I'll take the free dirt parking lot. (For the record, Vail does have limited free parking)

Some ski area dirt parking lots are so gnarly you practically need a 4x4 to get through them.

MRG likes to pack the cars in so tight that if you show up early for a pow day you're probably going to come back to your car to find scratches from skis on it. Come on people, it's not that hard to multitask and walk and hold something at the same time.

 

[steamboat1]

Come to think of it, I don't believe I've ever been to a ski resort that has paved parking. Maybe I have and just dont remember.

Off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others.
The upper lot at Lincoln Peak (sugarbush)
Tram side at Cannon
Multi-level parking at Stratton
Mansfield parking lot at Stowe (new)

 

[Tin]

Might as well consider K access road a lot. It becomes one on Saturdays instead of people actually using the lot.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Vail has a parking garage. But you also have to pay like $25 for the day.

Screw that.

Off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others.
The upper lot at Lincoln Peak (sugarbush)

I never ski in NH or s.VT, so that's the only one I would have seen. Guess I've just never noticed.

 

[Puck it]

Sunapee is paved. Upper Peabody lot is paved at Cannon and so is the Zoomer lot.

 

[dlague]

Can't recall but Jay Peak has two parking garages technically I know the bottom is dirt but is the top dirt filled?

 

[VTKilarney]

Can't recall but Jay Peak has two parking garages technically I know the bottom is dirt but is the top dirt filled?

IIRC, no.

 

[ALLSKIING]

Might as well consider K access road a lot. It becomes one on Saturdays instead of people actually using the lot.

With the current condition of that upper section of the road it's way worse then dirt.

 

[4aprice]

With the current condition of that upper section of the road it's way worse then dirt.

Was up at the K-1 Lodge Sunday and they did do some work on the road this summer. Not as beat up and bumpy as it was last spring.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

 

[steamboat1]

Might as well consider K access road a lot. It becomes one on Saturdays instead of people actually using the lot.

True, in May there are more cars on the road than in the lot.

Good times.

 

[gostan]

Build a new lodge at top of Gatehouse lift @ Sugarbush to alleviate the weekend crowds at the way too small Gatehouse lodge at the base.

 

[machski]

$108/day tickets, I hope they paved the lots!!

Stowe paved the Mansfield parking lot this summer so you can cross that one off the list. They even added stripes

 

[goldsbar]

No, that's not what this it. When you "mortgage your home" you get a loan that the bank lends because it believes you will be able to repay it, and the bank has deemed the risk low enough and the return acceptable enough to take that risk. The reason these EB-5 projects aren't simply financed by banks in the first place is because the project isn't deemed financially viable.

Anyway, this EB-5 conversation already exists in another thread with reasoning why the program may do more harm than good in the long run and has been well-discussed if you search for it.

It's a little bit like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window