Permanent Industry Changes in the Post-COVID World

[ss20]

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Long term growth isn’t going to be sustainable for much longer I’m afraid. Actually I’m not afraid at all, it is what it is but at this rate it’s definitely going to pot imho.

The US could fit hundreds of millions more people...we have the natural resources, the technology, and the space to do so. It'll never happen, and we'll peak in population around 2050 in all likelihood.

Two things that sound great in theory- lowered population (by a natural decrease in fertility, of course) and deflation. But both are economic suicide in practice. And it certainly seems that we're very slowly headed towards both so you may get your wish. At least for inflation there's very little left for the fed to do to keep it afloat, other than giving every person in America thousands and thousands of dollars of free money...oh wait....

 

[PAabe]

According to ol' Malthus we should've been boned several times over by now due to the population growth
In the '80s they thought half the world was going to starve to death
Things will be fine, we'll figure it out. I think the rate of global population growth has already reached an inflection point or something. US population would be decreasing if not for immigrants. I hope to have 2-3 kids, that would seem to be about replacement rate. Somebody's got to carry on when we quit working.

 

[abc]

US population would be decreasing if not for immigrants.

With the overall anti-immigration sentiment, and stricter immigration control, wouldn't be too surprising that will slow down too.

So yeah, those of you who isn't even close to retirement age, there won't be enough work force to pay for your social security.

 

[PAabe]

Yeah I don't count on seeing any of that money on the social security line of my paycheck ever again

 

[skiur]

Social Security was first supposed to run out of money 20 years ago, but somehow its still going.

 

[abc]

Social Security was first supposed to run out of money 20 years ago, but somehow its still going.

it may still be "going". But the retirement age had been raised. Monthly payment also become less and less in real purchasing power.

It's very likely it'll be there forever, eventually paying only a tad over the poverty line.

 

[1dog]

With the overall anti-immigration sentiment, and stricter immigration control, wouldn't be too surprising that will slow down too.

So yeah, those of you who isn't even close to retirement age, there won't be enough work force to pay for your social security.

I wouldn't term it 'anti-immigration sentiment' but more 'illegal' as an adverb. Always thought that one ones who would/should be most outraged about the illegal part - those who followed the rules, paid the legal fees, waited 3-5 years or more, becoming an asset to society by becoming US Citizens, paying taxes and contributing to the public welfare. That said, I completely understand those who want to 'break in' when they hear of all the benefits afforded those granted to anyone who makes it across the border.

We slowed to a crawl immigration in the 20's thru '65 to allow them to assimilate to US culture. Now, we're expected to bow to their cultures. . . . . . imagine demanding another country to teach everything in every language that arrives there? https://www.migrationpolicy.org/pro...Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents

not sure about now, but in the 90's CA had driving test in 19 languages - how many signs are in those. 19 languages?


As for SS- that was another government promise broken - was 'only going to be 1% tax that ' went away' after the 'kitty' was established to throw off enough income from investment to cover 'supplemental' retirement income. Now, it's 15% plus. Then take the fact that avg age of death as around 65 in 1930's when they came up with this, and they never tagged it to growing life expectancy.

They keep printing $$ like we will never have to pay it back and then double speak about ' saving the earth for our children and children children', all the while spending next few generations into oblivion. Its both sides, its our fault, we keep 'em there, and history illustrates it has never ended well.

 

[1dog]

it may still be "going". But the retirement age had been raised. Monthly payment also become less and less in real purchasing power.

It's very likely it'll be there forever, eventually paying only a tad over the poverty line.

That would be the same poverty line that hasn't changed since the Great Society was going to end it forever. . . in 1965, 13-15 trillion dollars later. Perfect illustration. Don't forget the key word 'supplemental'. Was never meant to be a 'living wage'.

 

[icecoast1]

So yeah, those of you who isn't even close to retirement age, there won't be enough work force to pay for your social security.

That's ok, the sooner that program ends the better.

 

[boston_e]

COVID aside, I guess going forward I wouldn't mind not getting on a closed in gondola with mixed groups.

 

[abc]

I wouldn't term it 'anti-immigration sentiment' but more 'illegal' as an adverb. Always thought that one ones who would/should be most outraged about the illegal part - those who followed the rules, paid the legal fees, waited 3-5 years or more, becoming an asset to society by becoming US Citizens, paying taxes and contributing to the public welfare.

You may have voted to stop ILLEGAL immigration. What you had gotten was anti- immigration from countries of the “wrong color”!

How many of my Indian coworkers who were denied visa extension I lost count. Those were LEGAL immigrants who “followed the rules, paid the legal fees...“!

 

[skiur]

COVID aside, I guess going forward I wouldn't mind not getting on a closed in gondola with mixed groups.

I never liked gondolas, too many people too close together, and taking off your skis sucks.

 

[abc]

I never liked gondolas, too many people too close together, and taking off your skis sucks.

I ski in the rain. A gondola is way better

 

[dblskifanatic]

I never liked gondolas, too many people too close together, and taking off your skis sucks.

I agree! can't have your own conversation. I would rather meet people on the lift. It is just my wife and I so under normal circumstances others ride up with us.

 

[PAabe]

Sounds like I may be in the minority here but I like talking to other people/groups on the gondola although taking off the skis sucks

Can't even find many people who want to share a quad chair this season and people look at you funny for suggesting it

 

[icecoast1]

Can't even find many people who want to share a quad chair this season and people look at you funny for suggesting it

I've noticed vaccinated people the last couple weeks have been far more willing to ride up on a chair with you. Hopefully a sign of things to come. Lines have been pretty obnoxious at times this year with chairs not going up full

 

[Harvey]

I've noticed vaccinated people the last couple weeks have been far more willing to ride up on a chair with you. Hopefully a sign of things to come. Lines have been pretty obnoxious at times this year with chairs not going up full

Do they tell you they are vaxed? Carry a card? Wear a pin?

 

[abc]

Do they tell you they are vaxed? Carry a card? Wear a pin?

They got grey hair, and wrinkles!

 

[ss20]

Do they tell you they are vaxed? Carry a card? Wear a pin?

I would be all-for public recognition of being vaccinated. I think would be put a lot more at-ease if they went to the grocery store and saw, say, 1 out of every 5 people were vaccinated, or that, in this case, the person riding the ski chair with them was vax'ed.

Of course there's no actual way to do this, and I'm sure most would be opposed. Just my wandering thoughts. But hey, if y'all see a massive "I've been vaccinated" T-shirt at Killington this spring make sure you come over and say hi to ss20 hahaha.

 

[ss20]

They got grey hair, and wrinkles!

Actually they're having terrible rashes, growing a third arm, and developing Typhus because of these no-good-terrible-vaccines!