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Permanent Industry Changes in the Post-COVID World

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jt10000

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Same jt1000 from NYSkiblog.

I remember your reaction to a discussion of transmissions.

Please keep it light so we don't have to lock this thread like over there.
So people can hurl insults at me and I shouldn't sharply call it out? Mentioning gendered insults is not light enough but being called a drama queen is OK?

Got it. Thanks.
 

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Same jt1000 from NYSkiblog.

I remember your reaction to a discussion of transmissions.

Please keep it light so we don't have to lock this thread like over there.

Disappointing response, blaming the person who calls out the objectionable behavior rather than the perpetrator. No wonder there are so few women on this board.
 

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So people can hurl insults at me and I shouldn't sharply call it out? Mentioning gendered insults is not light enough but being called a drama queen is OK?

Got it. Thanks.
I've nicely asked you to keep it light.

I won't ask again.
 

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Disappointing response, blaming the person who calls out the objectionable behavior rather than the perpetrator. No wonder there are so few women on this board.
You don't know the facts here. jt1000 ran roughshod on a NYSkiblog thread and Harvey was forced to lock it.

I don't care who is right or wrong that's not my place as a moderator and this isn't a courtroom.
 

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You don't know the facts here. jt1000 ran roughshod on a NYSkiblog thread and Harvey was forced to lock it.
No, read that thread from my first comment. I made a request (with the word "please") to avoid a word that in other contexts is a slur (making clear that it was not intended that way in the post). Well a bunch of dudes were TRIGGERED for being asked to be considerate. They flipped out. I was trying to "police" them and should shut up. Finally the moderator came in and said something reasonable to the people ragging on me ("If you are dismayed, let it go").

Sure......I ran rough-shod over six guys who can't handle someone asking them to avoid a word. LOL.

This is relevant:
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No wonder there are so few women on this board.

So JimG - if you want a forum where people should not call out non-inclusive language in an insult, fine. Keep it bro-friendly and ban me.

I've been warned. Your site.
 
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So a new member on the board doesn't like others telling people where they should boot up and thinks it is wrong for someone to tell others what to do, but then a few posts later goes on to tell others what words are acceptable to use in an insult?
 

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So a new member on the board doesn't like others telling people where they should boot up and thinks it is wrong for someone to tell others what to do, but then a few posts later goes on to tell others what words are acceptable to use in an insult?
For all I know those words *are* acceptable here. I sure didn't say they're not - I noted them as gendered. If that being pointed out bothers you, perhaps think about why that is.
 

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So JimG - if you want a forum where people should not call out non-inclusive language in an insult, fine. Keep it bro-friendly and ban me.

I've been warned. Your site.
As a long time yet disgruntled member here, here's my perspective.

1) it's not JimG's site. Nick is the owner. He gets to profit (and lose) from the site. Jim is just a moderator. Not sure what he gets for his trouble. Probable not a whole lot if it's anything like most other internet forum moderators. Not my business anyway. So not exactly "his site".

2) The site was seriously neglected the last few years (constantly down even in the middle of the season). So a lot of the regular posters had left. Only the "bro" stayed on to insult each other with no regard to the purpose (or health) of the site.

(Someone mentioned my posting had changed over the past few years. That's in keeping with the changed tone of the board. No consciously but just being frustrated, probably like the rest of the disgruntle gang)

Starting this season, the site is finally staying up and I see many new members joining, especially when the site went to the new host. I was hoping the new members would dilute the constant barrage of insults with more ski related posts. It did to a small degree, just not enough to completely cover up the ugliness.

By reprimanding the "snow flakes", moderators set the standard of what to expect in behavior. So I'm giving up my hope this site goes back to a ski-centric site with the infusion of polite new members. It's likely only the combative new members stay while the rest leave.

10 years ago, I thought TGR was too rowdy and didn't participate. Now, I feel TGR is positively polite compared to alpinezone.
 

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Not into internet combat..but I'm staying. This stuff happens everywhere and since a lot of people work from home now and don't see real people much..its happening in the work environment as well. Instead of a person..you become words on a computer screen.
 

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Your memory is cloudy. This site was FAR more abrasive in the past.

Hell, one former member started his own site, "No Shit Zone" because we weren't allowing enough poo flinging.

Given the upheaval this Pandemic has caused in a number of areas of life, I'm surprised there haven't been even harsher dialogue this past year with people on edge the way they are. It's been pretty tame all things considered.

Generally speaking we have always allowed for the vast majority of moderating to be done by the members with a few "famous" exceptions that lead to banned members.
 

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Also, I used to go to TGR pretty regularly. At no point since I’ve been on AZ has it been more hostile than TGR, IMO. But, I haven’t been to TGR in a few years so not sure of its current state.
 

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Also, I used to go to TGR pretty regularly. At no point since I’ve been on AZ has it been more hostile than TGR, IMO. But, I haven’t been to TGR in a few years so not sure of its current state.
Nothing to do with hostility or skiing but todays the 52nd anniversary of Nashville Skyline, such a great album.
 
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