Permanent Industry Changes in the Post-COVID World

[Andrew B.]

My Nephew tested positive on XMas Eve. NO symptoms at all.....
The they changed the Guidelines to "5 Day Rule"
On Day #5 he played in his college Hoops Game.
School official told Coach "He should have been tested first."
OK kid, Go get tested tmrw"
Day 6 couldn't get a test
Day #7 Tested Positive
Now the whole college hoops team in done for the next week.....

It’s basketball, and I mean no disrespect but I hope no one in the team is symptomatic.
If so then maybe the rules for shutting the team down should be re-evaluated

I know this B. you keep repeating fits your agenda but you are spreading bad information by continuing to repeat this. The change in quarantine from
10 to 5 days is not "requiring infected people to work" - it is from research and learning that the risk of transmission from a vaccinated asymptomatic person is significantly lower in days 6-10 and the growing evidence that the infection period is 2 days before and 3 days after symptoms begin.


Not splitting hairs at all. Even in the face of Omicron, Vaccinated (and especially those who have received their booster) are less likely to contract COVID and therefore less likely to transmit. They are also significantly less likely to end up in the hospital themselves. RI is now going to allow infected healthcare workers back to work

I know this B. you keep repeating fits your agenda but you are spreading bad information by continuing to repeat this. The change in quarantine from
10 to 5 days is not "requiring infected people to work" - it is from research and learning that the risk of transmission from a vaccinated asymptomatic person is significantly lower in days 6-10 and the growing evidence that the infection period is 2 days before and 3 days after symptoms begin.


Not splitting hairs at all. Even in the face of Omicron, Vaccinated (and especially those who have received their booster) are less likely to contract COVID and therefore less likely to transmit. They are also significantly less likely to end up in the hospital themselves.

Today Rhode Island announced that Covid positive healthcare workers will be allowed to go back to work if staffing shortages require it.

Staffing shortages that would be 4% less if they didn’t fire those people.

 

[kendo]

Not splitting hairs at all. Even in the face of Omicron, Vaccinated (and especially those who have received their booster) are less likely to contract COVID and therefore less likely to transmit. They are also significantly less likely to end up in the hospital themselves.

Supported by 8 months of data in NYS:

COVID-19 Breakthrough Data

Cases and hospitalizations by vaccination status

coronavirus.health.ny.gov

In December 2021, the average new hospitalization Daily rate with confirmed CV-19 cases was 2.29/100K Vaccinated and 31.54/100K Unvaccinated. Unvaccinated patients are filling NY hospitals at a 14x rate of vaccinated.

It's your decision if you get vaccinated. Hopefully a look at actual data versus headlines & socials helps make the choice.

 

[2Planker]

It’s basketball, and I mean no disrespect but I hope no one in the team is symptomatic.
If so then maybe the rules for shutting the team down should be re-evaluated


Both the Coach and Asst Coach are now + w/ "mild symptoms".

2 players have parents in Hosp. for 3 days.
Total mess. B-Ball team is done for a while

 

[Harvey]

As unvaccinated people don’t they still pose a threat to the healthcare system IF they get sick? Wouldn’t they also pose a threat if they were vaccinated and got sick? Differentiating between the two is splitting hairs.

That's BS and I'm guessing you know it. We're talking about the odds and severity of sickness.

 

[SLyardsale]

Today Rhode Island announced that Covid positive healthcare workers will be allowed to go back to work if staffing shortages require it.

Staffing shortages that would be 4% less if they didn’t fire those people.

This is about to happen across the country. They have no choice based on the current situation. Mandates were a bad idea. Now, this is being done for what amounts to the common cold for most. The 5 day thing is a good idea, but it exposed the whole situation for what it is.

 

[mikec142]

I think of myself as pretty empathetic. But that empathy has limits. What follows may not be a popular opinion.

I look at the vax mandates as a (hopefully) once in a lifetime opportunity to thin the ranks of problematic people in the military, law enforcement, and other industries. If you're not willing to get a shot in the arm to protect others, what else are you not willing to do to protect others?

 

[Not Sure]

I look at the vax mandates as a (hopefully) once in a lifetime opportunity to thin the ranks of problematic people in the military, law enforcement, and other industries.

Dr Mengele I presume?

 

[SLyardsale]

I think of myself as pretty empathetic. But that empathy has limits. What follows may not be a popular opinion.

I look at the vax mandates as a (hopefully) once in a lifetime opportunity to thin the ranks of problematic people in the military, law enforcement, and other industries. If you're not willing to get a shot in the arm to protect others, what else are you not willing to do to protect others?

What does this have to do with anything ?? and is a ridiculous take. At this point, mandates are problematic for all industries. Once Comirnaty is readily available in the US for all, then this would be more of a discussion. Let me know when I can get my Comirnaty 4th booster.

 

[JimG.]

Wow what a mess!

I'm tired of hearing from either "side" at this point. Pretty shocking how entrenched we have become.

Utterly pitiful as well.

 

[jimk]

I think of myself as pretty empathetic. But that empathy has limits. What follows may not be a popular opinion.

I look at the vax mandates as a (hopefully) once in a lifetime opportunity to thin the ranks of problematic people in the military, law enforcement, and other industries. If you're not willing to get a shot in the arm to protect others, what else are you not willing to do to protect others?

That's one way to look at it.
I think more simply that it's an example of Darwin's Law. Those that don't get vaxxed die at a higher rate from covid than those that do.

 

[drjeff]

If folks haven't listened to the 2 recent Joe Rogan podcasts with Dr Peter McCullough and Dr Robert Malone (Dr Malone was a principle investigator of the research group that in essence developed the mRNA technology) I would highly suggest that you give them a listen

Scientific citation after citation and tons of insight from both the research and clinician perspective on COVID and how it has been handled

 

[icecoast1]

If folks haven't listened to the 2 recent Joe Rogan podcasts with Dr Peter McCullough and Dr Robert Malone (Dr Malone was a principle investigator of the research group that in essence developed the mRNA technology) I would highly suggest that you give them a listen

Scientific citation after citation and tons of insight from both the research and clinician perspective on COVID and how it has been handled

A lot will simply dismiss them because you know Joe Rogan is evil, but they were actually really good interviews if you took the time to listen

 

[SLyardsale]

A lot will simply dismiss them because you know Joe Rogan is evil, but they were actually really good interviews if you took the time to listen

Agree. McCullough and Malone are worth listening too. Not a sound bite or MSM thing, so most will simply dismiss as you say.

 

[deadheadskier]

I have a hard time taking Malone seriously after reading his website.

Robert W Malone MD

www.rwmalonemd.com

Altruistic doctor looking to help things? No agenda other than for the good of man.

Or

Opportunistic doctor who knows many media outlets right now will pay him very well because there's a lot of people out there who he will resonate with.

Hmmm......

What's his take on demon sperm?

 

[KustyTheKlown]

lol that website is some quack shit. joe rogan. quack quack quack. bunch of quacking ducks.

 

[NYDB]

Rogans not evil. He's a dumbass and a usefull idiot. self described Moron.

Only episodes worth listening to are when he's tripping balls with Duncan. Maybe a few other with comedians who don't kiss his ass: Burr, Ari, Chapelle.

now he just has people on who have books to sell.
as the saying goes, he's just Oprah for dudes.

Joeprah

 

[Not Sure]

How about you guys watch the interview and site what Dr. Malone said that is inaccurate . I honestly would like to know what he said that's not true .

 

[boston_e]

IDr Malone was a principle investigator of the research group that in essence developed the mRNA technology

Katalin Kariko and Drew Weissman say hi.

False: Dr. Robert Malone invented mRNA vaccines.

www.logically.ai

 

[boston_e]

How about you guys watch the interview and site what Dr. Malone said that is inaccurate . I honestly would like to know what he said that's not true .

The part where he claims to have invented mRNA vaccines

False: Dr. Robert Malone invented mRNA vaccines.

www.logically.ai

 

[drjeff]

Katalin Kariko and Drew Weissman say hi.

False: Dr. Robert Malone invented mRNA vaccines.

www.logically.ai

Umm, I said Dr Malone was A principle investigator, not was THE principle investigator..

The reality is that it was a group of researchers/clinicians from numerous organizations over many years who were involved with mRNA technology development