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VAIL SUCKS
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thebigo
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It was 1986 today at attitash: wait 30 minutes in line for a fixed grip, twenty minutes on the lift only to ski boilerplate with 6000 jamokes snowplowing every bump they can find.
My four year old did have a spectacular lesson on the carpet, her instructor had infinite patience and is the kind of person keeping our sport alive, too bad vail is so intent on destroying it.
Picture below around 9:00, only shows a portion of the line. Would have needed a video later in the day.
My four year old did have a spectacular lesson on the carpet, her instructor had infinite patience and is the kind of person keeping our sport alive, too bad vail is so intent on destroying it.
Picture below around 9:00, only shows a portion of the line. Would have needed a video later in the day.
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Edd
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Never seen the triple that packed. I’m sure COVID isn’t helping.
If Vail unloads Catitash, I’d like to see the two areas severed from each other. I care very much about Wildcat but Attitash, not so much. Certainly, two very different areas that require different approaches.
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I skied 4 runs w my kids on Illusion from 9-10:15 this morning, then decided to see what Attitash looked like. Kids were done and went home w Mom. After driving over to the main lot, I reluctantly made my way to the crazy ass line for the triple. I didn’t see the singles line but eventually made my way through the queue. It was a sh*tshow. Made it to the top with only 4-5 stops (people kept falling while getting on the lift). Took a run down Tightrope. It was crap skiing. Went straight to the truck. Done for the day before noon. Went for a drive up to Wildcat this afternoon just to check it out. Still only 1 lift 1 run (Lynx) from the top. Pre-Booked for tomorrow. Gotta get the runs in before 11. Then gonna look for some fatbiking somewhere! Snow n New Years maybe?
Crotched was fairly decent today considering the Xmas weather. Very light crowds. Mainly was skiing Supernova with my son. They were blowing on Pluto's and Jupiter's.
Need to blow on Milky Way. That was washed out, so the two sides of the mountain aren't well connected.
Need to blow on Milky Way. That was washed out, so the two sides of the mountain aren't well connected.
thebigo
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Surprised to see Jupiter next in line. Would have guessed big dipper, magnitude or ncc on that side. The turn into milky way is one of the more dangerous spots I can think of in New england. I wear a helmet today because of that turn, also saw an excellent bump coach go into the woods. I am guessing management would prefer to open other parts of the hill first.
They were blowing on Big Dipper and NCC as well. Forgot about those. Not trails I typically pay attention to.
I would have thought Magnitude before Jupiter's. Most years Jupiter's is last.
I would have thought Magnitude before Jupiter's. Most years Jupiter's is last.
kingslug
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This is why I stayed home..besides Hunter being sold out..just couldn't deal with what I figured it would be like today...so I painted.
abc
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Not that I have a choice as my pass is blackout.
But this reminds me what holiday has always been like in "normal" years. It's been a very long time since I skied during the holiday period.
Not to mention my non-skiing family and friends now get to see me for the holidays!
But this reminds me what holiday has always been like in "normal" years. It's been a very long time since I skied during the holiday period.
Not to mention my non-skiing family and friends now get to see me for the holidays!
ss20
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This went from the "Vail Sucks" thread to "Attitash and Wildcat Are the Worst Ski Resorts in Existence and Vail is the Primary Culprit But F*** Peaks Too While We're At It" thread
chuckstah
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At this point it's clear that Vail just wants the resorts to be open during the "core season". They don't care about the customer, or the experience. Each resort just needs to be open to avoid refunds. One ribbon? Open. No refund. No credit. Next season will have to be almost free to re-up. Glad I have the Indy pass to hopefully actually get some decent skiing in this season.
Yep
Yep. Ill be going with the White Mountain Superpass next season. Worth the extra $300-400 vs Epic for the product they are delivering in NH. I can't see why a NH based skiers would give Vail their money again next season after this year's debacle. I say this as someone who considers Wildcat my overall favorite mountain in the state. Even if I owned property in the MWV, I'd still go with the Superpass unless Vail proves themselves with not just serious capital investment in NH, but much stronger operations. No reason Attitash shouldn't be 75% open for Xmas week with the snowmaking system they have. Cat should be at 50% even in a bad year like this one. That's 100 acres or so of snowmaking for Cat and 225 for Attitash.
Yep. Ill be going with the White Mountain Superpass next season. Worth the extra $300-400 vs Epic for the product they are delivering in NH. I can't see why a NH based skiers would give Vail their money again next season after this year's debacle. I say this as someone who considers Wildcat my overall favorite mountain in the state. Even if I owned property in the MWV, I'd still go with the Superpass unless Vail proves themselves with not just serious capital investment in NH, but much stronger operations. No reason Attitash shouldn't be 75% open for Xmas week with the snowmaking system they have. Cat should be at 50% even in a bad year like this one. That's 100 acres or so of snowmaking for Cat and 225 for Attitash.
That's a damn sweet pass but god is it expensive! In the end you do got what you pay for.
Either way I'll get cannon vet pass but I think even with the veteran deal epic offers, and its substantial saving, I'm probably out on that and will pick up a midweek pass or an indy add on. It sucks because wildcat is probably my favorite nh mountain and I like the crotched 9-9 access for lazy days
thebigo
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And now wildcat is closed per website for maintenance on quad. Hoping to open at 9:30 during Christmas vacation week.
I would pay the same price for an Epic pass as the Superpass IF Vail put as much effort into running their NH areas as the Superpass areas are right now.
I'm basically convinced that Vail is the Walmart of skiing. They attempt to corner the market with a too cheap to refuse product and care nothing about local ski culture and norms.
Rob Katz is a freaking tone deaf moron in regards to what Eastern skiers want. Thing is that even if Vail loses half of their NH pass revenue, that's probably the equivalent of a ten percent decline at Breckenridge. Noticeable, but not the end of the world. He'll still get his $2M+ annual stock compensation and as long as those shares still do well on Wall Street, he won't give a shit. Hell with the money he's made off of Vail, he probably could cash out in the next year or two and say screw it, not worth the effort.
thebigo
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It is unbelievable:
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Any chance wind has something to do with operations? Cannon is closed today because of wind
thebigo
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thebigo
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The problem with the Walmart analogy is that Walmart is open, stocked and staffed on black friday. I cannot think of a worse experience as a customer than vail has provided the Boston North skier this year. It does not make any sense, the metro Boston area is significantly more populous than metro Denver, the four areas on the pass are a perfect mix but they just do not care.
The WMSP is interesting, glad it was mentioned. I was locked in on boyne for next year but the WMSP allows us to stay in the valley with everything the valley has to offer a young family. Also rent the same condo again, not easy to find a condo that's works for two kids and a lab/pit mix.
Edit: cranmore has 19 trails and six lifts open, bretton woods has 5 lifts and around 20 trails open, also sold out at what i assume >$100/day.
The WMSP is interesting, glad it was mentioned. I was locked in on boyne for next year but the WMSP allows us to stay in the valley with everything the valley has to offer a young family. Also rent the same condo again, not easy to find a condo that's works for two kids and a lab/pit mix.
Edit: cranmore has 19 trails and six lifts open, bretton woods has 5 lifts and around 20 trails open, also sold out at what i assume >$100/day.
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