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VAIL SUCKS

cdskier

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What happened to Dave moulton, he just posted an update on Facebook about two weeks ago?
Very weird timing for sure. Dave's video was posted 8/18. The posting for his position says it was posted 8/23.
 

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My thoughts as well. Nearly 20 years at Mount Snow and 20 years at Killington before that.... I don't know his exact age but dude has gotta be close to retirement....
You *might* be on to a very rational thought process there ss20.

*Might* be a great bookend to a long, highly respected career in the industry to get what is arguably the biggest, most significant lift installation season in Mount Snow’s history completed and then go on to an even more significant "job" as husband, father and many times over grandfather.

I will certainly look forward to getting some runs in with Dave this season both when he has his "work" coat on early season and then his "normal" coat on later in the season.

He has truly been incredibly generous with his vast knowledge of the mtn ops side of the industry with me for well over a decade, as well as putting up with some of my very "geeky" questions about operations things as well. He is truly an asset to the industry and someone who has treated myself, my wife, and my kids as well as one could ask. In addition to being very generous with his knowledge to now multiple generations of leaders and up and comers in the industry today as well
 

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Bristol checks all the boxes for Vail acquisition. Longtime owner/GM has been there since 1975 and purchased it outright in 1984 - likely ready to consider offers. He also hired the current Vail Executive VP Mountain Ops / COO Rockies Region to his first ski industry job at Bristol Mtn. Bristol owns the Roseland waterpark complex for summer biz to complement their on-mountain activities. Continual investment in lifts & snowmaking has kept them in better shape (needing less capital infusion upon acquisition) than other western NY areas. Typical Bristol skier has always been willing to pay higher lift and pass prices (season pass $935) for 1200' vert and HSQ's ... versus the local alternative Swain. Gets a lot of locals from Roch's eastern suburbs and FLX region with higher income demographics...

Could we see a Bristol acquisition announcement before year end? I'd bet yes...
 

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Yes Dave was great, got me in touch with B. Ryan a number of years ago when I needed some numbers crunched by the right people.
Wouldn’t trust B Ryan adding 2+2. Also never met someone with such an ego. Literally one of the most unpleasant people I’ve ever met in the ski biz.
 

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Stowe bumping into $200 window rates (topping at $199 this year and supposedly already sold out two days in January and one in February). Vail and BC own the most expensive, topping at $275 on peak holidays.
 

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Exactly. They might have had 10 tickets for sale at that price.

“Buy your Epic Pass now!!!”
I'm being spammed daily with those emails even though I told them where the Goomer shits...
 

cdskier

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I'm being spammed daily with those emails even though I told them where the Goomer shits...
They've certainly been pretty aggressive the past week with sending out e-mails. I'm seeing e-mails about the pass deadline from them sent on 8/26, 8/29, 9/1, 9/2, 9/3, 9/4, and two today on 9/5.
 
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drjeff

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They've certainly been pretty aggressive the past week with sending out e-mails. I'm seeing e-mails about the pass deadline from them sent on 8/26, 8/29, 9/1, 9/2, 9/3, 9/4, and two today on 9/5.


And yet we will still likely see some posts on various ski chatroom/social media sites about folks not being aware when the deadline date was....
 

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No one is paying that they shouldn't even bother staffing the window on those days
Probably not and if you go online now to try to buy day tickets in advance, it pops up a comparison window to just the tickets and that cost vs an Epic Day Pass that is waaaayy lower for basically the same product except you need not worry about sell outs with an Epic Day Pass. So given this new comparison pop up, I wonder exactly how many pure "day" tickets Vail will even sell? Seems they are offering up a very obvious way around limited day tickets
 

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Probably not and if you go online now to try to buy day tickets in advance, it pops up a comparison window to just the tickets and that cost vs an Epic Day Pass that is waaaayy lower for basically the same product except you need not worry about sell outs with an Epic Day Pass. So given this new comparison pop up, I wonder exactly how many pure "day" tickets Vail will even sell? Seems they are offering up a very obvious way around limited day tickets
While this is true now, Epic Day Passes will not be available during the season after they go off sale. Of course the popup might still be there to remind the customer to buy Epic Day Passes next season.
 
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