Kingslug20
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Wasn't going to respond...but there are a lot of jobs that can be automated now.. a whole...lot..They are running lifts in Europe using CCTV systems….
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Wasn't going to respond...but there are a lot of jobs that can be automated now.. a whole...lot..They are running lifts in Europe using CCTV systems….
If you left SJ because of one thread, good riddance!This is a lie. You locked the thread and a new was created within 5 mins LATER. Jaytrem left first - smarter than I .
I've been an SJ moderator for about the same length of time. In that time, I locked one thread and sent two PMs warning people about personal attacks. The SJ crowd is different from the AZ crowd and people gravitate to where they are comfortable.So, I've been a moderator here for probably 12 years or so now. I've come to believe that less moderation is the better way. I didn't always feel that way. In fact, I'd say the first five years or so I was probably the most uptight moderator of our group in regards to rule enforcement. I was very quick to shutdown political discussions and personal attacks. It was rooted in wanting to keep the peace, but those decisions often resulted in even less peace.
We still don't really want politics or personal attacks here, but mostly let them slide unless it's a real nuisance with lots of reported posts. So by enlarge we just let the conversations go where they may. People are always free to not read them if they don't like the topics or direction. For the most part the forum moderates itself, the folks here are largely good people with a shared passion, spats don't last long.
I'll clean up the spam and alert Nick about technical issues. That's been about it for a few years now. Couple testy times during the height of Covid, but that's about it.
But, perhaps Snow journal is going for something different. I'm not member over there, but occasionally browse. Lots of good content.
ok thanks,If you left SJ because of one thread, good riddance!
True minimum wage is $0…Wasn't going to respond...but there are a lot of jobs that can be automated now.. a whole...lot..
The SJ crowd is different from the AZ crowd and people gravitate to where they are comfortable.
No, more like team Vail versus team Anti-Vail and a few of us in the middle. I can't complain about how Vail has run things at Mount Snow. Just not a fan of the addition paid parking. But I do see the lousy job they're doing at a number of other areas and feel for the people who have to deal with any type of pass refund or off snow customer service.Echo chamber?
Snow Journal forumWhat is SJ?
So, I've been a moderator here for probably 12 years or so now. I've come to believe that less moderation is the better way. I didn't always feel that way. In fact, I'd say the first five years or so I was probably the most uptight moderator of our group in regards to rule enforcement. I was very quick to shutdown political discussions and personal attacks. It was rooted in wanting to keep the peace, but those decisions often resulted in even less peace.
We still don't really want politics or personal attacks here, but mostly let them slide unless it's a real nuisance with lots of reported posts. So by enlarge we just let the conversations go where they may. People are always free to not read them if they don't like the topics or direction. For the most part the forum moderates itself, the folks here are largely good people with a shared passion, spats don't last long.
I'll clean up the spam and alert Nick about technical issues. That's been about it for a few years now. Couple testy times during the height of Covid, but that's about it.
But, perhaps Snow journal is going for something different. I'm not member over there, but occasionally browse. Lots of good content.
I agree that there are a lot of people who have no idea what is involved with running a ski area from snowmaking to lessons. Joshua has every right to respond to these criticisms by explaining difficulties with weather, staffing,etc. But it seemed to me that Joshua Segal and at least one other Crotched employee, took, and responded like, any criticism of Vail was a personal attack. I never remember anyone on SJ criticizing the employees who work at any individual mountain. Yes, they criticized the upper management in Colorado but not the work-a-day employees. Any business that does not listen to complaints is bound to lose business as was evidenced by the sale of season passes being down 12% this year. In my opinion, it was Joshua Segal and his inability to take any criticism of his employer, and rather took it personally, who caused the problem at SJ.No, more like team Vail versus team Anti-Vail and a few of us in the middle. I can't complain about how Vail has run things at Mount Snow. Just not a fan of the addition paid parking. But I do see the lousy job they're doing at a number of other areas and feel for the people who have to deal with any type of pass refund or off snow customer service.
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You said above, "But it seemed to me that Joshua Segal and at least one other Crotched employee, took, and responded like, any criticism of Vail was a personal attack."I agree that there are a lot of people who have no idea what is involved with running a ski area from snowmaking to lessons. Joshua has every right to respond to these criticisms by explaining difficulties with weather, staffing,etc. But it seemed to me that Joshua Segal and at least one other Crotched employee, took, and responded like, any criticism of Vail was a personal attack. I never remember anyone on SJ criticizing the employees who work at any individual mountain. Yes, they criticized the upper management in Colorado but not the work-a-day employees. Any business that does not listen to complaints is bound to lose business as was evidenced by the sale of season passes being down 12% this year. In my opinion, it was Joshua Segal and his inability to take any criticism of his employer, and rather took it personally, who caused the problem at SJ.
I never said that anyone made a personal attack on you. Quite the opposite. Quote, " Yes, they criticized the upper management in Colorado but not the work-a-day employees". I said you took it as a personal attack and responded like it was a personal attack.You said above, "But it seemed to me that Joshua Segal and at least one other Crotched employee, took, and responded like, any criticism of Vail was a personal attack."
I think you are mistaking "seems to me" as being a fact. Feelings are not facts.
Personal attack is when someone calls me a D-bag, an A-hole or an S-head, because they don't like my POV.
That being said, if you can cite something that someone ever said about Vail that I claimed to be a personal attack, I would be grateful if you cited it - and since this is mostly about things that happened on SJ, SJ might be a more appropriate venue for this aspect of the discussion. The thread of the same name is still active on SJ.
Today at Okemo there was no sucking. Great effort to de ice lifts and get most things open by lunch time and all scheduled lifts by later in the day. No crowds, no lines and all things considered the runs were in better than expected conditions. You would not want to wipe out and fall as very hard surfac, but if you enjoy hard and fast surface it was good. Only bad thing was any lifts that had not been put away for the night were covered in a coat of ice which was a bit chilly on the behind going up!Let’s get back on track to Vail sucking please
Looking forward to 9am open tomorrowToday at Okemo there was no sucking. Great effort to de ice lifts and get most things open by lunch time and all scheduled lifts by later in the day. No crowds, no lines and all things considered the runs were in better than expected conditions. You would not want to wipe out and fall as very hard surfac, but if you enjoy hard and fast surface it was good. Only bad thing was any lifts that had not been put away for the night were covered in a coat of ice which was a bit chilly on the behind going up!