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VAIL SUCKS

jaytrem

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Ouch, I'm guessing that's one line to download Gunbarrel and one for the Tram. I wonder what the download capacity on Gunbarrel is?
 

eatskisleep

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downloading needed because lower mountain isn’t open yet?? Sorry never been there
 

jaytrem

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downloading needed because lower mountain isn’t open yet?? Sorry never been there
Correct, looking at the ski report I don't see anything open in that area. There's only 1 intermediate way down along with what is typically steep bumps. They'll probably pull your pass if you ski down to the snow line and walk the rest of the way.

They have a pretty cool bump race in that area (yes it's a race, no points for style)...

 

thetrailboss

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So I just came back from Alta. While driving down LCC I met a brand new Audi with a license plate that read, "SKI VAIL". I panicked because I thought it was Rob Katz! Holy shit I hope that he is not scoping out his next acquisition!

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Neighbor just stated that 1/2 the new snowmakers for Cat/Tash walked out yesterday....

Not surprised from what I've heard re: the new GM's lack of knowledge, except for F&B issues

Ridiculous.....
Hunter lost most of their snowmakers to Belleayre over the last 2 seasons.

They talked the head groomer, who retired after 30+ years, into coming back to help out when he was in town. He showed up for work the other day, and was told that his pay was being cut. He turned around and walked out the door!

Place is a mess, I have been stuck on the 6 pack 3 times this season. Each over 30 minutes. For the last several years the issue has been on tower 13. Think they would of fixed it by now
 

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downloading needed because lower mountain isn’t open yet?? Sorry never been there
Its pretty normal for Heavenly to go super late on Upper Cal and not ski down to lake level. How Stagecoach/Boulder lodge is open is beyond me. The mtn is set up super weird and complex. So easy for people to get separated/lost.
 

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So I just came back from Alta. While driving down LCC I met a brand new Audi with a license plate that read, "SKI VAIL". I panicked because I thought it was Rob Katz! Holy shit I hope that he is not scoping out his next acquisition!

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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“In the name of inclusivity the stormtroopers and I are looking to conquer a new front and open it to all forms of snow sliding…”
 

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Sorry guys. I see where the confusion lies. I made a typo responding to Joshua.

"There's a group of private investors willing to buy Wildcat and Vail is interested in selling the area. That isn't because it's a cash cow."

That was supposed to say "isn't"
For similar reasons, there were all kinds of rumors 3-years ago that Vail wanted to divest of many of the smaller areas in their portfolio. There were rumors to the one about Wildcat recently discussed on this thread, that a bunch of local investors wanted to buy Crotched Mountain from Vail.

The reason that some people thought that Vail might do that was that Crotched does only about 100K skier visits per year with gross cash flow for a season under $10M; and that a big corporation like MTN (Vail) wouldn't find CM to be an interesting place for a large corporation to own. Furthermore, CM is a local hill in a corporation filled with destination resorts.

Despite all the talk on now 507 pages of this thread, I don't see Vail in financial difficulties and if they were, selling CM would not yield them much money. (Neither would Wildcat.) Vail would be far more likely to sell off one of their large western resorts if they needed cash to pay bills. If and when that happens, I will worry about the solvency of MTN.
 

BenedictGomez

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Despite all the talk on now 507 pages of this thread, I don't see Vail in financial difficulties and if they were, selling CM would not yield them much money. (Neither would Wildcat.) Vail would be far more likely to sell off one of their large western resorts if they needed cash to pay bills. If and when that happens, I will worry about the solvency of MTN.

I imagine Vail wont initially sell off properties to "pay bills", but rather to aid gross margins. I bet some of these little properties arent very profitable (if at all).

In terms of their debt, it appears none of it is near-term, it all starts to kick-in starting in 2025.

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catskillman

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All these various geographically diverse "Vail Fails" are intriguing.
today at Hunter the 6 pack famously failed again. They got it started, running at half speed and only loading every other chair.

30 minute lift line at least...can't wait until tomorrow after the snow storm...should be a real ss
 

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I imagine Vail wont initially sell off properties to "pay bills", but rather to aid gross margins. I bet some of these little properties arent very profitable (if at all).

In terms of their debt, it appears none of it is near-term, it all starts to kick-in starting in 2025.

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Are you not a Wall Street executive?
 

BenedictGomez

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I noticed Vail removed the 3rd circular widget that used to display the percentage of terrain open.


TODAY

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LAST WEEK (from wayback machine)

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urungus

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I prefer to think it's a diabolical & intentional way for them to hide the fact that it's January & less than 1/2 their terrain isnt open.

I like to keep, The Empire vibes going.
The second and third circular widget appear to be identical, 118 / 346 = 34 %, is the third widget supposed to be showing percentage of trails open or percentage of acreage open ?
 
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