VAIL SUCKS

[cdskier]

I prefer to think it's a diabolical & intentional way for them to hide the fact that it's January & less than 1/2 their terrain isnt open.

I like to keep, The Empire vibes going.

So oddly enough this wasn't removed from ALL sites. Hunter, Sunapee, and Liberty are the 3 resorts in the northeast and mid-atlantic that seem to still have the 3rd widget on their website. Literally seems to just be % based on the open trail count and not mileage/acreage though. Maybe they don't think most people know how to figure out a % on their own!

 

[thetrailboss]

I noticed Vail removed the 3rd circular widget that used to display the percentage of terrain open.


TODAY

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LAST WEEK (from wayback machine)

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Intentional? Sure. MLK weekend is coming up and that is the next big revenue weekend. So of course they will spin it. Just like Ski Utah was on Thursday before we even got any snow.

Broomfield directed? Unlikely IMHO. It is local management spinning things.

 

[thetrailboss]

So oddly enough this wasn't removed from ALL sites. Hunter, Sunapee, and Liberty are the 3 resorts in the northeast and mid-atlantic that seem to still have the 3rd widget on their website. Literally seems to just be % based on the open trail count and not mileage/acreage though. Maybe they don't think most people know how to figure out a % on their own!

Exactly. Local marketing.

 

[BenedictGomez]

So oddly enough this wasn't removed from ALL sites. Hunter, Sunapee, and Liberty are the 3 resorts in the northeast and mid-atlantic that seem to still have the 3rd widget on their website.

I could still give a conspiracy theory, "The Empire" spin in that Park City is probably a revenue multiple in importance of several times that of Hunter, Sunapee, and Liberty combined.

 

[cdskier]

I could still give a conspiracy theory, "The Empire" spin in that Park City is probably a revenue multiple in importance of several times that of Hunter, Sunapee, and Liberty combined.

My point was more that it disappeared from a lot of sites seemingly at the same time, but not all. I'm fairly certain it was on at least a lot of the other northeast resort pages up until now. Granted you could potentially just chalk this up to incompetence as well as in someone was "supposed" to remove it from all sites and just missed some.

 

[kingslug]

 

[BenedictGomez]

you could potentially just chalk this up to incompetence as well as in someone was "supposed" to remove it from all sites and just missed some.

That is most likely the correct answer.

But why?

On January 5th, in North America, why would you want to overtly delete the percentage of skiable terrain figure being visable to your customer base?

 

[Edd]

Wildcat today, with 4“ of fresh snow.

 

[Newpylong]

Attitash. Not much better. However it does seem like there is substantial snowmaking occuring on both peaks now.

 

[eatskisleep]

WILDCAT WEATHER FORECAST​

1/7/23 6am Let it Snow!!! 4 inches of new snow at 6am and it is dumping. It is Sunday and we are super excited for snow! Can you tell we love snow? Come up to Wildcat Mountain today for some really fun skiing and riding. 9 trails, 4 lifts, over 2000 vertical and friendly staff await you today. Today, expect conditions to begin with a groomed, powder and packed powder surface. The trails will appear ungroomed as the day goes on. Snow is expected all day. That means free powder refills all day. The skiing and riding should be really sweet. Lifts operating include the Wildcat Express summit quad, the Bobcat triple chair, the Snowcat triple chair and the World Famous Snowbelt from 830am-330pm. Come up to Wildcat today for some fun skiing/riding, awesome atmosphere and the coolest staff around. Some cool news from Attitash...The Mountaineer summit lift OPENS TODAY! Check out the valleys newest lift! Remember, "THINK SNOW" and I'll see you on the mountain.
UPHILL UPDATE: Uphill travel is NOT ALLOWED at this time.

 

[catskillman]

Hunter has the fpercentage at 47% today, after 7 inches of snow and it is still snowing. % is misleading IMO as most of it is short trails, and several blacks not open and no double diamond.

The 6 pack, the only lift to the top is running every other chair empty again today. Place is a zoo, as it is most days. Visibility is definitely an issue making it even worse.

This chair has had issues for years, mostly tower 13, and they ca't fix it???? And then they want to replace 2 shorter lifts, when they can't fix or run the ones they have.

 

[Mainer]

It’s rough in the mwv. attitash still not connected to bear peak. Wildcat is basically 1.5 trails. Main lift at pleasant broken. Black 3 runs. Cranmore mostly greens.

 

[pinion]

Surprisingly light crowds at Wildcat today given the snow. Maybe everyone is at Attitash since Mountaineer is open?

@Mainer to your point… brutal skiing in the valley right now. Can’t imagine things will improve enough to make next weekend anything but a shitshow at every mountain you mentioned. I can’t ski yet… honestly I’m not missing anything…

That said, this storm and whatever falls Wed should give a decent base for whatever comes after MLK weekend. Things can still turnaround here.

 

[deadheadskier]

A friend is at Sunapee today.. line for the North Peak triple because they didn't get the HSQ open until 11:15.

Probably saved some labor and boosted F&B sales in the lodge though, so the shareholders will be pleased.

 

[thetrailboss]

View attachment 60411A friend is at Sunapee today.. line for the North Peak triple because they didn't get the HSQ open until 11:15.

Probably saved some labor and boosted F&B sales in the lodge though, so the shareholders will be pleased.

"That makes me so happy!"

 

[Edd]

Just rolled into North Conway. Storm seems to be over delivering but hard to say how much is on the ground.

 

[catskillman]

Have fun with this -

Examining Jeffrey Epstein’s Vail connections following new revelations

Contacts of deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein were revealed this week as a federal judge began unsealing court records related to a settled 2015 civil lawsuit. While the names revealed won’t come as much of...

www.vaildaily.com

Less than a year later, Leon Black, whose company Apollo Ski Partners became the majority shareholder of Vail Associates in 1992, stepped down as the CEO of Apollo Global Management “following the revelation that he paid more than $150 million to the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein,” according to the New York Times.

Apollo Ski Partners went on to become the modern Vail Resorts.

“Leon Black’s Apollo Global Management had assigned a young executive, Rob Katz, to the Vail account in 1992, and he had been intimately involved in the company’s significant moves, including the purchases of Breckenridge, Keystone, and also Heavenly, and the RockResorts lodging outfit,” former Steamboat President and COO Chris Diamond wrote in “Ski Inc.”

 

[zyk]

View attachment 60411A friend is at Sunapee today.. line for the North Peak triple because they didn't get the HSQ open until 11:15.

Probably saved some labor and boosted F&B sales in the lodge though, so the shareholders will be pleased.

I'm poor so I would probably be drinking in the lot if I saw this...

 

[thetrailboss]

Have fun with this -

Examining Jeffrey Epstein’s Vail connections following new revelations

Contacts of deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein were revealed this week as a federal judge began unsealing court records related to a settled 2015 civil lawsuit. While the names revealed won’t come as much of...

www.vaildaily.com

Less than a year later, Leon Black, whose company Apollo Ski Partners became the majority shareholder of Vail Associates in 1992, stepped down as the CEO of Apollo Global Management “following the revelation that he paid more than $150 million to the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein,” according to the New York Times.

"Oh the fun we had with my buddy Jeff! All that fun that my wife will never know about!"

 

[Former Sunday Rivah Rat]

"Poor Leon got caught in a honeypot, that was my good fortune to become such a young CEO. The Stormtroopers will never admit to strangling Epstein"