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VAIL SUCKS

shpride

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I think that one interpretation is that people buy the Epic pass, use it, but are not so keen to buy food, drinks, other items. Vail’s model was to use the latter to make money. If everyone is skiing/riding but not buying then no money.
I have had an Epic pass for 5 years and I don’t think I’ve spent a dollar on anything other than my pass. I was going to buy a water for my daughter one time at Attitash but they were offering free waters so that worked out wonderfully for me.
 

snoseek

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I've not given them money for food. I bought a cool deadhead shirt at Wildcat last year because i honestly liked it but that was it.

The lodge at the top of the gondola at heavenly was like 14 dollars 5 years ago for a beer. Their outright greed caught up with them. Price it somewhat competitive and people will spend some money. This goes for non vail areas as well.
 

chuckstah

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I don't give Vail any money either besides the pass. $18 chili or $14 beers just doesn't make sense. If beers were $7 or so like they were not long ago I'd go in to warm up and have one or two. No longer. Pocket food works, if needed. I did get a quick edge and wax at Crotched for like $12. I thought that was reasonable when needed. Now, at an Indy resort, I'll often grab some f&b. Black, NH had $4 PBR's last year.
 

Smellytele

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I don't give Vail any money either besides the pass. $18 chili or $14 beers just doesn't make sense. If beers were $7 or so like they were not long ago I'd go in to warm up and have one or two. No longer. Pocket food works, if needed. I did get a quick edge and wax at Crotched for like $12. I thought that was reasonable when needed. Now, at an Indy resort, I'll often grab some f&b. Black, NH had $4 PBR's last year.
Had some $6 Mac and cheese today and a couple of $8 beers at Whaleback. Actually the fiddlehead rep bought my son and I a couple of fiddlehead pints!
 

SLyardsale

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That's me!
Me too. We usually do apres at Bromley at the wild boar. When at Snow, at the most we go once a year. Last year, we did go to Iron Loft at carinthia on a Saturday for my birthday in early Feb - Vail had just announced lay-offs and closing down carinthia f & b for the remainder of the season. This was before the Feb school break, We ordered apps, mutliple drinks and they handed me a bill for $18 total. I tipped them big, all in cash.
 

chuckstah

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Had some $6 Mac and cheese today and a couple of $8 beers at Whaleback. Actually the fiddlehead rep bought my son and I a couple of fiddlehead pints!
Thinking Whale tomorrow. I'll give them some business inside if we end up there. Nice on the comp!🍻
 

BenedictGomez

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when they return to the corporate office every single one of them would recomment selling all the eastern resorts!

Not Stowe. Probably not Hunter or Mount Snow either. The rest? Some of them frankly should be sold. Any some will be sold; give it time.
 

BenedictGomez

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I think that one interpretation is that people buy the Epic pass, use it, but are not so keen to buy food, drinks, other items. Vail’s model was to use the latter to make money. If everyone is skiing/riding but not buying then no money.

Our total non skiing (EPIC pass, Ski School) spending to date is $12.49 (wife bought a PC ski map Goggle cleaner in a Vail owned Canyons store).
 

BenedictGomez

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I have had an Epic pass for 5 years and I don’t think I’ve spent a dollar on anything other than my pass.
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Former Sunday Rivah Rat

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"Since we own Mountain News and OnTheSnow.com, we can just put rain icons on the daily weather forecast in New England, every day! That will get them traveling to our Western resorts where we own the whole town. This will jump start the revenue stream!"

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BenedictGomez

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Super Condor lift opened today, and I was on it within the first hour or so. It stopped 3 times going to the top & I'd say our "stopped time" totalled about 15 minutes or so.

There have been various rumors for why it hadn't opened this season given it services a lot of important terrain (not enough snow, too few workers, avalanche risk (i.e. too much snow)), but now I'm wondering if there's something wrong with it like electrical or something. If so, it sure seems like many Vail properties are having various lift problems. I'm just thankful we didn't have to be lift evaced, I was starting to get a bit worried!
 

thetrailboss

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Super Condor lift opened today, and I was on it within the first hour or so. It stopped 3 times going to the top & I'd say our "stopped time" totalled about 15 minutes or so.

There have been various rumors for why it hadn't opened this season given it services a lot of important terrain (not enough snow, too few workers, avalanche risk (i.e. too much snow)), but now I'm wondering if there's something wrong with it like electrical or something. If so, it sure seems like many Vail properties are having various lift problems. I'm just thankful we didn't have to be lift evaced, I was starting to get a bit worried!
It’s getting up there in years. I like that side of the area.
 
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