VAIL SUCKS

[Smellytele]

The whales on Avenger looked like a buried Godzilla yesterday! This weekend finally felt like a normal ski season. The lifts were all mostly open. Much more terrain finally spreading people out. Has a smile on my face all day Sunday once that sun got high enough to warm things up. Crowds were nothing compared to a few weeks ago. More snow coming this week and it's just gonna keep getting better. Almost makes me forget about the shitshow first 6 weeks of the season.

Vail isn’t the reason it got better. Snow is.

 

[thetrailboss]

It would probably be somewhere around Denver..but now it looks like we are stuck here for several more years.

You do know about I-70 and its issues, right? It makes SLC's seem like nothing.

 

[thetrailboss]

Go BC.

Crowds are necessary for operating a ski mountain profitably.

That's what Vail and others believe.

 

[kingslug]

You do know about I-70 and its issues, right? It makes SLC's seem like nothing.

I would try to avoid that mess...

 

[abc]

You do know about I-70 and its issues, right? It makes SLC's seem like nothing.

But there're a lot more lodging available at Summit county than up at the end of LCC. So there're more ways around the traffic problem than in SLC

 

[kingslug]

Ten Ways to Survive the I-70 Drive to Mountain Resorts

If you must take Interstate 70, there are ways to avoid most of the traffic.

www.westword.com

 

[kingslug]

Ive managed to avoid crowds by skiing Bell, Gore and Platt...while thousands of people go to Hunter and other places..then post how miserable it was...where there's a will there's a way...

 

[abc]

where there's a will to look outside the box, there's a way...

Fix it for you

Vail still sucks big time. But there're other places to ski besides Vail owned mountains.

 

[kingslug]

yes..there are..I find them all the time.
My job for the last 25 years is to fix problems..anything they throw at me. Sometimes I have to sit through 100 emails from everyone..then just do what I originally proposed...
There's a ton of people posting thousands of posts on forums and F book about how terrible everything is..very few post an answer.
23 days in so far and I haven't waited more than 10 minutes on a line.

 

[thebigo]

The whales on Avenger looked like a buried Godzilla yesterday! This weekend finally felt like a normal ski season. The lifts were all mostly open. Much more terrain finally spreading people out. Has a smile on my face all day Sunday once that sun got high enough to warm things up. Crowds were nothing compared to a few weeks ago. More snow coming this week and it's just gonna keep getting better. Almost makes me forget about the shitshow first 6 weeks of the season.

The snowmaking effort at crotch and attitash shows no quit. I would guess the total volume of man made is on par with or in excess of Peaks. Question is whether the unmitigated disaster they perpetuated on the local passholders from thanksgiving to MLK weekend was an aberration or SOP. Interested to see how they operate this spring; assuming there is sufficient snow, they could build a significant amount of goodwill by pushing the wildcat closing day.

 

[raisingarizona]

Go BC.

Crowds are necessary for operating a ski mountain profitably.

Hmmm......... This is different. I've also put more time into BC skiing then you can probably imagine. How does that work in the Lower Hudson Valley?

 

[JimG.]

There’s too many damn people now. It’s burning me out. I don’t like being in crowds.

You and me both. It's gotten to the point I sometimes avoid skiing the day after a storm to avoid crowds.

 

[Mainer]

Whales on avenger might be the biggest I have ever seen. But until lifts open midweek at attitash no amount of snowmaking is going to change the locals negative perception of vail

 

[JimG.]

yes..there are..I find them all the time.
My job for the last 25 years is to fix problems..anything they throw at me. Sometimes I have to sit through 100 emails from everyone..then just do what I originally proposed...
There's a ton of people posting thousands of posts on forums and F book about how terrible everything is..very few post an answer.
23 days in so far and I haven't waited more than 10 minutes on a line.

ORDA has done a masterful job of managing crowds...all without needing reservations.

And Plattekill has been like skiing heaven...yesterday it was ski on all day for the most part with a deep packed powder base everywhere and thigh deep in the trees. Again, all without reservations.

 

[abc]

Hmmm......... This is different. I've also put more time into BC skiing then you can probably imagine. How does that work in the Lower Hudson Valley?

Move away from the Lower Hudson Valley?

(I have access to a friend's frequently empty house in VT. Or, I just get lucky in the last couple of coastal storms!)

 

[thetrailboss]

ORDA has done a masterful job of managing crowds...all without needing reservations.

And Plattekill has been like skiing heaven...yesterday it was ski on all day for the most part with a deep packed powder base everywhere and thigh deep in the trees. Again, all without reservations.

I think the problem with Epic and IKON is the same as with the former ASC All East Pass--they sell too many of them and don't limit sales. Accordingly, everyone feels that they need to get their value and shows up.

How many stories have we seen about problems with crowding at Vail and IKON resorts? A lot.

 

[kingslug]

Plus a lot of people have way more time on their hands..or they couldn't show up on a monday and pack places. Some have lost their jobs..but bought the pass before they did..now all they need is some gas to get there and back. Plus working at home you can sneak out for some runs..
Its a different planet these days.

 

[kingslug]

And I wish i brought my skis..my block is covered..whole city is covered..need a little more pitch though

 

[Cobbold]

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What city is that?

 

[FBGM]

What city is that?

Miami