VAIL SUCKS

[ScottySkis]

What city is that?

City of NY

 

[Cobbold]

City of NY

thanks

 

[kingslug]

Nyc

 

[raisingarizona]

You and me both. It's gotten to the point I sometimes avoid skiing the day after a storm to avoid crowds.

Today I posted on Harvey’s site that I’m now looking forward more to packed powder days than actual powder days. There’s so many people that it isn’t fun for me anymore.

 

[raisingarizona]

ORDA has done a masterful job of managing crowds...all without needing reservations.

And Plattekill has been like skiing heaven...yesterday it was ski on all day for the most part with a deep packed powder base everywhere and thigh deep in the trees. Again, all without reservations.

Careful, don’t tell too many people.

I’m no longer talking much about where I see myself skiing over the next bunch of years.

 

[abc]

Today I posted on Harvey’s site that I’m now looking forward more to packed powder days than actual powder days. There’s so many people that it isn’t fun for me anymore.

I'm not seeing that much powder maniac in the smaller mountains. You can shout with a megaphone on how great Plattekill is, nobody actually change their plans to go there instead! Your open secret is save.

And even on the "major destination" resorts, the powder chasers are all crowding over the "expert" terrain. Leaving the less steep slopes untouched for an hour or more after first lift. Sometimes, powder can still be found on the side of beginner slopes at lunch time!

Then, there's the woods.

So, I'm not in a big hurry to go out in the middle of the storm. The day after is quite often just as good. And sometimes even 2 days after, especially if some terrain were not open during the previous days.

I'm also happy to ski packed powders, before they got scrape off, that is. And slushy bumps in the spring.

The only thing I don't care for, is icy slopes with zoos of barely in-control skiers. And for this year, extra long lines. That's the true reality of "crowds" for me.

 

[kingslug]

Miss the big mountains this year..i like skiing areas rather than runs...
Once you ski places like st anton..its tough to back..

 

[JimG.]

Today I posted on Harvey’s site that I’m now looking forward more to packed powder days than actual powder days. There’s so many people that it isn’t fun for me anymore.

Funny the exact way I felt yesterday at Plattekill. PP next best thing to pow. Especially with lots of round bumps.

 

[skiur]

How do you ski pow on beginner slopes? They aren't steep enough for you to move. Also mountains groom them cause beginners can't ski pow. Have to agree with you on spring bumps, close second place to pow.

 

[chuckstah]

It's dumping good now in southern NH. One porch step deep so far. The question is, which sucky Vail resort to hit next couple days/nights. Thinking few runs at the Crotch after work tomorrow, and almost certainly Sunapee Wednesday. Keep it coming......

 

[abc]

How do you ski pow on beginner slopes? They aren't steep enough for you to move. Also mountains groom them cause beginners can't ski pow. Have to agree with you on spring bumps, close second place to pow.

Just surf them. Don't turn too much too early, point down the fall line to build some speed first before trying to make some easy turns.

Still a lot of mountains don't groom ALL of their beginner trails. They'll groom a few for the true beginners. But leaves the powder till the next day. Believe it or not, beginners can ski powder better than "intermediates"! They just slide and enjoy. While the "intermediates" try to control like they're on groomers.

 

[LonghornSkier]

I skied the Bird yesterday and didn’t think it was that bad for a bluebird day after a storm. Pulled in at 8:15 to a spot on the road right by entrance 2 (didn’t have a parking reservation). Only line >6 minutes I waited in was at mineral basin at about 11:15-30.

Just my $0.02. Also, I wasn’t skiing on IKON (I’m an epic guy), I paid the absurd day ticket rate (plus about $40 work of base work after multiple traverses to PTEX point to ski Wilbere chute) so don’t blame me for crowds .

 

[SnowRock]

Question.. not to pile on the vail sucks theme but has anyone had luck getting a reservation at a place after it was initially unavailable? Any tips for when/how often you were checking the Epic site? I have to be in Stowe this weekend for something somewhat unexpectedly, the drive will hurt much less if I can get out on Saturday

Disclaimer.. My wife and I work from home, get fresh direct for groceries and neither of us have seen another person socially since one cousin joined us for thanksgiving.. also one shot in to vaccine.

 

[dblskifanatic]

Question.. not to pile on the vail sucks theme but has anyone had luck getting a reservation at a place after it was initially unavailable? Any tips for when/how often you were checking the Epic site? I have to be in Stowe this weekend for something somewhat unexpectedly, the drive will hurt much less if I can get out on Saturday

Disclaimer.. My wife and I work from home, get fresh direct for groceries and neither of us have seen another person socially since one cousin joined us for thanksgiving.. also one shot in to vaccine.

You do not need to explain your quarantine status to us. That is your personal thing.

 

[cdskier]

Question.. not to pile on the vail sucks theme but has anyone had luck getting a reservation at a place after it was initially unavailable? Any tips for when/how often you were checking the Epic site? I have to be in Stowe this weekend for something somewhat unexpectedly, the drive will hurt much less if I can get out on Saturday

Disclaimer.. My wife and I work from home, get fresh direct for groceries and neither of us have seen another person socially since one cousin joined us for thanksgiving.. also one shot in to vaccine.

You know...there's a great opportunity here (and maybe it exists already) for someone to create a website that automatically checks periodically and alerts you via e-mail when spots open up. Back in college we had a student-run website that would do exactly that (except with course registration instead of ski reservation availability). I used it several times to get into classes that were originally full when I tried to register.

 

[drjeff]

Question.. not to pile on the vail sucks theme but has anyone had luck getting a reservation at a place after it was initially unavailable? Any tips for when/how often you were checking the Epic site? I have to be in Stowe this weekend for something somewhat unexpectedly, the drive will hurt much less if I can get out on Saturday

Disclaimer.. My wife and I work from home, get fresh direct for groceries and neither of us have seen another person socially since one cousin joined us for thanksgiving.. also one shot in to vaccine.

Honestly, its a bit of a crap shoot, based on folks cancelling once the sold out status has been reached, as it seems like the system updates quite frequently throughout the day

 

[AdironRider]

I'm not seeing that much powder maniac in the smaller mountains. You can shout with a megaphone on how great Plattekill is, nobody actually change their plans to go there instead! Your open secret is save.

And even on the "major destination" resorts, the powder chasers are all crowding over the "expert" terrain. Leaving the less steep slopes untouched for an hour or more after first lift. Sometimes, powder can still be found on the side of beginner slopes at lunch time!

Then, there's the woods.

So, I'm not in a big hurry to go out in the middle of the storm. The day after is quite often just as good. And sometimes even 2 days after, especially if some terrain were not open during the previous days.

I'm also happy to ski packed powders, before they got scrape off, that is. And slushy bumps in the spring.

The only thing I don't care for, is icy slopes with zoos of barely in-control skiers. And for this year, extra long lines. That's the true reality of "crowds" for me.

You clearly don't ski out west much, because no big name resort is skiing "just as good" the day or two after a storm.

Jackson is tracked by 11am. Including the sidecountry.

 

[SnowRock]

Honestly, its a bit of a crap shoot, based on folks cancelling once the sold put status has been reached, as it seems like the system updates quite frequently throughout the day

Yeah.. that is what I have been assuming, that its a bit random. Will just keep checking multiple times a day.

 

[thebigo]

FYI - Rocket is down due to ice for anyone thinking of crotched tonight. Surface in great shape.

 

[Quietman]

FYI - Rocket is down due to ice for anyone thinking of crotched tonight. Surface in great shape.

Interesting, the web cam showed it running fine around 10:30. Now I see that Valley is running.