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VAIL SUCKS

abc

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You clearly don't ski out west much, because no big name resort is skiing "just as good" the day or two after a storm.

Jackson is tracked by 11am. Including the sidecountry.
I clearly ski at Jackson quite a bit.:) Because I was able to find plenty of hidden (and not very hidden) powder at Jackson when everyone gone to lunch.

Some may argue it's not "as good" as it may have tracks on it. But it's definitely not chopped up, far from trashed, well into the day after. Unless you definition of "good" is first track on virgin snow, you can find powder well, well after the next day!
 

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Jackson hole gets skied out fast. Hobacks might have a little fresh but the rest is moguls the next day. Problem is it Is too popular, with too many good skiers.
 

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And now Vail closes backcountry gate at 9900 at Canhole. Because their gomer clientele keeps dying out that gate. (Dude on Saturday wasn’t, but still was sticking his dick where it shouldn’t be and paid the ultimate price)

BC gate is on Vail property to access Forest Service terrain. Thanks Vail.
 

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Question.. not to pile on the vail sucks theme but has anyone had luck getting a reservation at a place after it was initially unavailable? Any tips for when/how often you were checking the Epic site? I have to be in Stowe this weekend for something somewhat unexpectedly, the drive will hurt much less if I can get out on Saturday

Disclaimer.. My wife and I work from home, get fresh direct for groceries and neither of us have seen another person socially since one cousin joined us for thanksgiving.. also one shot in to vaccine.

I've heard they sometimes open up after there have been cancellations. Friends in Stowe said to check around midnight. Don't know the probability. But if you have to travel there anyway you might as well keep checking.
 

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I have seen reservation open up after they're sold out.

But I can't tell you what the pattern is, as I've only happened upon it once.
 

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Yes, that's the problem...

You have to go find the powder in places where "good skiers" don't go.;)
I lived out west for years, was amazed how fast Jackson got skied compared to my home mountain and other mountains I visited. But good for you to be able to find the pow that we overlooked. Can I get some pointers where to go next time?🤫
 

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I lived out west for years, was amazed how fast Jackson got skied compared to my home mountain and other mountains I visited. But good for you to be able to find the pow that we overlooked. Can I get some pointers where to go next time?🤫
Not having a trail map in front of me, I don't remember the name of the many trails. But it's mostly on the right side of the map, which is typically "intermediate land". All the while, the "good skiers" all gone to the left & the top!

That said, the tree on the (looker) left of Sublet chair typically kept pretty good. I was able to find powder there quite easily. Even some of the seemingly "obvious" (i.e. relatively wide open) paths appeared to be somehow overlooked. I remember making my way gingerly down, suspicious of why no one had taken those lines. But there were no hidden dragons waiting to eat me alive. When I gone back up to lap it, it was still relatively undisturbed. Though to be fair, I don't always able to find the same exact lines I took the previous run. I often end up with a slightly different line, albeit equally fluffy.
 

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Not having a trail map in front of me, I don't remember the name of the many trails. But it's mostly on the right side of the map, which is typically "intermediate land". All the while, the "good skiers" all gone to the left & the top!

That said, the tree on the (looker) left of Sublet chair typically kept pretty good. I was able to find powder there quite easily. Even some of the seemingly "obvious" (i.e. relatively wide open) paths appeared to be somehow overlooked. I remember making my way gingerly down, suspicious of why no one had taken those lines. But there were no hidden dragons waiting to eat me alive. When I gone back up to lap it, it was still relatively undisturbed. Though to be fair, I don't always able to find the same exact lines I took the previous run. I often end up with a slightly different line, albeit equally fluffy.

I think your talking about bivuac woods (not sure of the spelling). I remember finding untouched pow in there when most of the mountain was tracked out.
 

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One follow-up to my earlier inquiry about success with booking at a spot after it’s been sold out... anyone have a sense of likelihood of Bolton, Sugarbush or Smuggs becoming sold out for Saturday?

No success yet checking Stowe multiple times a day... and since I’m not traveling west this year don’t mind shelling out for a ticket to one of the others. Preference is Stowe for logistical purposes, but it’s been forever that I’ve ridden Bush or Smuggs and I’ve never been to Bolton
 

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One follow-up to my earlier inquiry about success with booking at a spot after it’s been sold out... anyone have a sense of likelihood of Bolton, Sugarbush or Smuggs becoming sold out for Saturday?

No success yet checking Stowe multiple times a day... and since I’m not traveling west this year don’t mind shelling out for a ticket to one of the others. Preference is Stowe for logistical purposes, but it’s been forever that I’ve ridden Bush or Smuggs and I’ve never been to Bolton
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One follow-up to my earlier inquiry about success with booking at a spot after it’s been sold out... anyone have a sense of likelihood of Bolton, Sugarbush or Smuggs becoming sold out for Saturday?

No success yet checking Stowe multiple times a day... and since I’m not traveling west this year don’t mind shelling out for a ticket to one of the others. Preference is Stowe for logistical purposes, but it’s been forever that I’ve ridden Bush or Smuggs and I’ve never been to Bolton
wow, amazed Stowe is sold out, it will definitely be sold out Presidents’ Day weekend
 

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One follow-up to my earlier inquiry about success with booking at a spot after it’s been sold out... anyone have a sense of likelihood of Bolton, Sugarbush or Smuggs becoming sold out for Saturday?

No success yet checking Stowe multiple times a day... and since I’m not traveling west this year don’t mind shelling out for a ticket to one of the others. Preference is Stowe for logistical purposes, but it’s been forever that I’ve ridden Bush or Smuggs and I’ve never been to Bolton

I haven't seen any sold out days for day tickets for Sugarbush yet, but I also have only looked once in a while just out of curiosity.
 

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Not necessarily as Sat and Sun of Pres Weekend are blacked out for Epic Local and Epic Northeast
Epic's in VT especially will likely be quite busy this weekend. Mount Snow went from Epic's level 2 ("filling up") ticket availability indicator level on Tuesday to level 3 ("almost sold out") on Wednesday for this coming Saturday.

However, as of yesterday, that was the only day, over the 3 week period their weekly reservation availability email that send out had that wasn't in their level 1 ("available"), status.

The new snow in pretty much everyone in the Northeast's backyards this week, what should be a decent weather day on Saturday, and with those with the Epic Northeast Pass being blacked out at some resorts next weekend is likely to put a bunch of cars in the parking lots this weekend (Saturday especially)
 

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Not having a trail map in front of me, I don't remember the name of the many trails. But it's mostly on the right side of the map, which is typically "intermediate land". All the while, the "good skiers" all gone to the left & the top!

That said, the tree on the (looker) left of Sublet chair typically kept pretty good. I was able to find powder there quite easily. Even some of the seemingly "obvious" (i.e. relatively wide open) paths appeared to be somehow overlooked. I remember making my way gingerly down, suspicious of why no one had taken those lines. But there were no hidden dragons waiting to eat me alive. When I gone back up to lap it, it was still relatively undisturbed. Though to be fair, I don't always able to find the same exact lines I took the previous run. I often end up with a slightly different line, albeit equally fluffy.
Apres Vous always has good snow...especially Saratoga Bowl
 

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Epic's in VT especially will likely be quite busy this weekend. Mount Snow went from Epic's level 2 ("filling up") ticket availability indicator level on Tuesday to level 3 ("almost sold out") on Wednesday for this coming Saturday.

However, as of yesterday, that was the only day, over the 3 week period their weekly reservation availability email that send out had that wasn't in their level 1 ("available"), status.

The new snow in pretty much everyone in the Northeast's backyards this week, what should be a decent weather day on Saturday, and with those with the Epic Northeast Pass being blacked out at some resorts next weekend is likely to put a bunch of cars in the parking lots this weekend (Saturday especially)
Yup... for a brief window last night Sunday was back open at Stowe but no Saturday. Think I am going to give Smuggs a shot Saturday instead... been a long long time since I've been on that side of the notch.
 

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For the sake of an upcoming trip I'm taking to the MWV over the third weekend of February, I'm here asking for intel: has Vail/Wildcat gotten its s*** together properly yet? Or perhaps I should ask; did that last storm finally get Vail/Wildcat's s*** together for it, conditions/lifts and crowds-wise?

I'll be staying near Jackson with a few others and we're planning one group ski day. There's a clear split regarding ski skills, so It's all right if we go different ways once on the mountain. I've skied just about all the areas in the MWV area plenty of times and know the terrain of each well. It's a question of what place is going the best right now (and hopefully going into mid-Feb.)
I can ski anything pretty well - happy to bash down the blacks and through the trees at Wildcat, will also entertain myself carving groomers and long cruisers.
Another person I'm going with is pretty decent - can hit blues and blacks, and would be interested in trying out some Bretton Woods-style easy glades, but probably isn't going to go constantly balls to the wall.
The others are novices. They've skied before, but not much, and might last the whole day but might not.
We've pretty much boiled it down to Bretton Woods or Wildcat.
Yes, I know, very different places. BW gives more for the beginners, not as much for us bombers, though I'm hoping to get up in Mt Stickney glades for the first time if they're skiing well. BW's also pricier. A lot pricier - I have an Epic Pass and some other discounts to dole out to my crew if we choose Wildcat. Then again, there's like 10 pages of this thread dedicated to what a shambles Wildcat and 'Tash have been.
Decision is mostly down to me...happy to take any up-to-date beta from those who've been at either lately.
 
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