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    Crystal open letter addressing heavy crowds

    https://www.crystalmountainresort.co...an-open-letter


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    That is too bad. I skied Crystal a bunch 10 years ago when my wife worked for Microsoft and had to travel to Seattle once a month. Really nice mountain. It used to be the best kept secret out there. Tons of back country and woods to play in. Now it is a total Sh*t show I hear and this letter confirms it. I have friends that are still out there and have changed their home mountain to Stevens pass or Baker because they can't put up with the crowds.

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    I have had some really good powder days at Alpental. You go from the summit and follow the boundary line on the left side of the mountain. There are gates there. You go across the traverse and drop in. There are many chutes and lines out there that are 2000'vert and you end up on a ski mobile trail back to the bottom in 5 minutes. Really good skiing.

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    alpental rules. packs a lot of punch for a little area.

    crystal also rules, but this is pretty predictable. ikon is certainly a thing, but so is seattle bursting at the seems with growth. add a piss poor early season and then sudden huge powder and its a recipe for the shitshow of the past few weeks

    the infrastructure of crystal is inherently unsuitable for crowds. they are in a national (state?) park. they are at the end of a long remote road with one lane in each direction, in an area with no cell service. even if you stay in enumclaw, there are limited hotels/beds and its still a 45 minute drive up 410 to get to crystal. there are maybe 3 small hotels and a handful of rental chalets at the mountain itself. they have a big RV/car camping scene. the parking lots are generally pretty small.

    ultimately, crystal is built for a day trip, but the mountain has the size and terrain of a destination resort.

    solution? build a big parking structure in enumclaw and run a lot of buses, and somehow get those buses into an express lane. a multi level parking structure at the base would help too, but im not sure they can get approval to do that.

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    The future of Sugarbush

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY DirtBag View Post
    The future of Sugarbush
    sugarbush doesnt share the inherent limitations of crystal that i listed above. you can access sugarbush from multiple directions and there are plenty of local beds. it also isnt ~2 hours from a massive city.

    everyone who skis crystal drives up the same tiny road and very few of them have the option of sleeping at the hill
    Last edited by KustyTheKlown; Jan 14, 2020 at 8:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KustyTheKlown View Post
    sugarbush doesnt share the inherent limitations of crystal that i listed above. you can access sugarbush from multiple directions and there are plenty of local beds. it also isnt ~2 hours from a massive city.

    everyone who skis crystal drives up the same tiny road and very few of them have the option of sleeping at the hill
    Not to mention there are boat loads of other ski areas around when compared to the Seattle area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY DirtBag View Post
    The future of Sugarbush
    Not even close to the same. SB has two access points, separated by a bit with multiple routes in from the North/South and East.

    Crystal is a dead end road with no base resort infrastructure. It is a day area that can't handle the traffic of weekend masses even though it's terrain and lifts can. It will take some creative thinking to solve this and Ikon alone is not a driving factor in the crowding.

    From what I have read, Stevens isn't much better this year (full Epic) in terms of crowds but it's roadway situation isn't quite a severe as Crystal's.

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    You can even come from the west on 17. It’s just not remotely comparable in any way

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