Permanent Industry Changes in the Post-COVID World

[KustyTheKlown]

are we really comparing arbitrary bans on muslim countries because they are muslim to banning travel to (at least try to) curb a novel disease that was spiraling out of control worldwide?

and it was trump who was openly pressuring to rush vaccine approvals for the election, which is what cast doubt on the legitimacy of the approvals.

some of the takes on this board are fucking insane.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

only 10% of black people are vaccinated.

there were many fine people on both sides in charlottesville.

joe rogan.

happy jan 6-iversary!

 

[NYDB]

only 10% of black people are vaccinated.

stats that are unbelievable (and wrong) make sense when they confirm your world view.

Epistemic closure ftw!

 

[1dog]

Best ( non-political) science-backed 2 Dr. info I've heard on the subject - if one is willing to invest the time.

Dark Horse Podcast is really worth the listen.


If not, hows this: Germany 71.1% vaxxed sample patients hospitalized and testing positive for Omi-96% are fully ( i.e; triple vaxxed)- remaining 4% were unvaxxed.

And then there's this:

 

[abc]

government bureaucratic hacks like Anthony Fauci pretending to be an expert in public health.

Do I need to read the rest of the post?

I'm sure a lot of the talk show host, especially the one on FOX, are far better qualified "expert in public health"!

 

[cdskier]

If not, hows this: Germany 71.1% vaxxed sample patients hospitalized and testing positive for Omi-96% are fully ( i.e; triple vaxxed)- remaining 4% were unvaxxed.

German institute did not report 96% of Omicron cases fully vaccinated

Some social media users are sharing claims that a weekly report by the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) showed that 95.58% of Omicron cases in Germany are among the fully vaccinated. The claims are partly based on a mistake in an RKI report that has since been corrected.

www.reuters.com

 

[VTKilarney]

are we really comparing arbitrary bans on muslim countries because they are muslim to banning travel to (at least try to) curb a novel disease that was spiraling out of control worldwide?

No. We are talking about Trump banning flights from China during the onset of Covid-19.

 

[boston_e]

Harris also said this with no evidence whatsoever (and to date no evidence):
When asked by Bash whether she thought that public health experts and scientists would get the last word on the efficacy of a vaccine, Harris predicted that they will not.
"If past is prologue that they will not, they'll be muzzled, they'll be suppressed, they will be sidelined," Harris said.

Here is what the actual person in charge had to say:
Moncef Slaoui, the chief adviser to Operation Warp Speed, said in an interview with Science published Thursday that he would resign from his role if there was undue interference in the Covid-19 vaccine effort.
"I have to say there has been absolutely no interference," he continued, adding that he would be "out" if he saw a push for a US Food and Drug Administration emergency use authorization that he didn't believe in.

So, yeah, Harris was at best reckless in her comments. Her words were chosen very carefully, but the intent was to undermine the public's confidence in any vaccine that was developed under the Trump administration - despite evidence that Trump had not interfered with the process. That's shameless.

At that point, Trump had already shown he was more than willing to silence / muzzle public health officials and to control the messaging on the pandemic for his own political purposes, so the comments "if past is prologue" are completely understandable.

 

[JimG.]

And someone accused me of inventing hate when I accused us all of being cranky.

Fact is our current government loves when we fight with each other like this which really pisses me off.

 

[VTKilarney]

At that point, Trump had already shown he was more than willing to silence / muzzle public health officials and to control the messaging on the pandemic for his own political purposes, so the comments "if past is prologue" are completely understandable.

Did you miss the part where the head of the entire program said that there was zero interference from Trump?

 

[Former Sunday Rivah Rat]

lol that website is some quack shit. joe rogan. quack quack quack. bunch of quacking ducks.

Says KustythenotalentassKlown. About what I'd expect from a law school loser, incubation chamber for lawyer jokes.

 

[abc]

At that point, Trump had already shown he was more than willing to silence / muzzle public health officials and to control the messaging on the pandemic for his own political purposes, so the comments "if past is prologue" are completely understandable.

+1

Did you miss the part where the head of the entire program said that there was zero interference from Trump?

Trump doesn't need to interfere when things are the way he wish for.

In a sense, we were "lucky" that the first candidate vaccine also happened to be the safest and more effective. Because one never know had the vaccine trial turned out to be less safe, or less effective, there's no telling if the "zero interference" would hold.

Just look at the Russian vaccines developed under a government that also "doesn't interfere".

 

[Former Sunday Rivah Rat]

I'm sorry you feel that way and I've always respected your opinions and posting style even when we disagree on topics.

This would be one of those times. I simply read that website and don't see a see a serious MD. I see someone that does know more about medicine than I ever will. Malone has accomplished a lot. But there is a major movement of people fighting back against mandates. You see it in this thread. The right wing has turned "mandates" into a big scary word like "socialism" or "antifa" . Or how about "big pharma". It's a rallying cry. So, it's an opportunity to get airtime with a specific audience and make a name for himself.

Serious MDs looking to make change are using channels such as NEJM to influence change and build coalition, not talk shows like JoePrah. I can't take Malone seriously for the same reason I don't take Dr Oz or Sanjay Gupta seriously. They're about being stars and making money. That's it.

Anyways, if you do move on, I'll miss your contributions and I wish for you a great season.

He invented mRNA technology. Extremeley credible. Malone could have made tens or hundreds of millions to push the jabs like the Fauci's of the world.

How does that compare that the financial incentive for big pharma to promote lies to further a brand new Trillion dollar market? They can afford to hire armies of trolls to post bullshit, some on this site.

 

[abc]

Says KustythenotalentassKlown. About what I'd expect from a law school loser, incubation chamber for lawyer jokes.

He invented mRNA technology. Extremeley credible. Malone could have made tens or hundreds of millions to push the jabs like the Fauci's of the world.

How does that compare that the financial incentive for big pharma to promote lies to further a brand new Trillion dollar market? They can afford to hire armies of trolls to post bullshit, some on this site.

With those examples above...

I've always respected your opinions and posting style even when we disagree on topics.

Seriously?

I guess the forum isn't going downhill. It's in the direction it's expected to go...

 

[cdskier]

With those examples above...

Seriously?

I guess the forum isn't going downhill. It's in the direction it's expected to go...

Eh? What does dhs's quote that was directed at eastern powder baby have to do with the other posts you quoted from an entirely different person?

 

[Andrew B.]

With those examples above...

Seriously?

I guess the forum isn't going downhill. It's in the direction it's expected to go...

The guy has threatened people with violence and your surprised he has upset some folk?

Come on

 

[VTKilarney]

+1


Trump doesn't need to interfere when things are the way he wish for.

In a sense, we were "lucky" that the first candidate vaccine also happened to be the safest and more effective. Because one never know had the vaccine trial turned out to be less safe, or less effective, there's no telling if the "zero interference" would hold.

Just look at the Russian vaccines developed under a government that also "doesn't interfere".

That’s a long winded way of saying that Trump did nothing wrong in regard to the vaccine development.

I’m no defender of Trump, but I can acknowledge when something goes well and the recklessness of what Biden and Harris said.

 

[deadheadskier]

The guy has threatened people with violence and your surprised he has upset some folk?

Come on

Please you drama lamma. Point me to one post I threatened violence in any way that wasn't being facetious. Sure, I'm pro-mandate and that's largely because I've been subjected to them for a decade and it's no big deal. But actually assaulting people to get the shot? No.

You on the other hand challenged Krusty come find you at Sunday River to settle your differences.

Let's be real Andrew, EVERY single one of your posts the past two years has been in one of the Covid threads pushing your agenda. It's your only reason for being here. On a skiing message board!!

Lol. Wow

 

[Andrew B.]

Please you drama lamma. Point me to one post I threatened violence in any way that wasn't being facetious. Sure, I'm pro-mandate and that's largely because I've been subjected to them for a decade and it's no big deal. But actually assaulting people to get the shot? No.

You on the other hand challenged Krusty come find you at Sunday River to settle your differences.

I wasn’t talking about you and as KK would say and you know that.

He threatens me twice (while the moderator did nothing) before I simply stand up to him and suddenly I am the aggressor???

He threatens to stab me with a screwdriver since and still no response from the supposed adult in the room but to blame me?

As you say lol

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Says KustythenotalentassKlown. About what I'd expect from a law school loser, incubation chamber for lawyer jokes.

good one. you're very witty.