SkiADK Gone?

[AdironRider]

Whats the deal?

 

[mattchuck2]

I was just about to ask that same question . . .

 

[campgottagopee]

Just

a big ole pissin match :flame:

Now it's ruined for everyone. Guess some people just can't get along.

 

[AdironRider]

So because a few members of the ADK board and Greg have beef, means we all lose. Nice.

 

[campgottagopee]

Yeah dude, kinda sad I know. Guess too many egos all in one basket???? I dunno bout you but that place was entertaining to say the least.

 

[mattchuck2]

Why don't they just ban the offending parties?

 

[BushMogulMaster]

I don't blame Greg. I'd have probably done the same thing if my mogul skiing forum (forums.mogulskiing.net) turned into an immature pissing match. If too many people are ignoring the forum rules (no flaming, no harassing, no foul language, etc.), then something needs to be done. Sure, you could ban them or delete their accounts. Then they just come back under a different user name with a different email address. It's a precarious situation, and you have to make a decision. Looks like Greg did.

 

[AdironRider]

I will admit as soon as Greg had it linked to the Whiteface homepage it created a wierd vibe. Noone could be critical about anything on the mtn without getting flamed or accosted.

 

[campgottagopee]

I don't blame Greg. I'd have probably done the same thing if my mogul skiing forum (forums.mogulskiing.net) turned into an immature pissing match. If too many people are ignoring the forum rules (no flaming, no harassing, no foul language, etc.), then something needs to be done. Sure, you could ban them or delete their accounts. Then they just come back under a different user name with a different email address. It's a precarious situation, and you have to make a decision. Looks like Greg did.

I totally agree that a decision needed to be made, but this decision seemed very abrubt with no attempt to ban partys involved. That was a real cool place to get true ski/weather conditions for both WF and Gore---now gone. Why????:evil:

 

[campgottagopee]

I will admit as soon as Greg had it linked to the Whiteface homepage it created a wierd vibe. Noone could be critical about anything on the mtn without getting flamed or accosted.

I hear ya, too much mountain air??? At least the "people" in their were VERY passionate about the mountain THEY call home. Tough crowd to hang with for sure.

 

[mattchuck2]

I will admit as soon as Greg had it linked to the Whiteface homepage it created a wierd vibe. Noone could be critical about anything on the mtn without getting flamed or accosted.

Well, you know that from this forum . . . Put up a thread entitled Whiteface is Icy and has no character, and see how long it takes highpeaksdrifter to assemble a point by point rebuttal to your post.

Over/Under is 45 minutes

 

[BushMogulMaster]

I totally agree that a decision needed to be made, but this decision seemed very abrubt with no attempt to ban partys involved. That was a real cool place to get true ski/weather conditions for both WF and Gore---now gone. Why????:evil:

A valid point, perhaps. But you can start you own, if you want! It's not hard. The responsibility need not fall solely on Greg!

 

[mattchuck2]

I totally agree that a decision needed to be made, but this decision seemed very abrubt with no attempt to ban partys involved. That was a real cool place to get true ski/weather conditions for both WF and Gore---now gone. Why????:evil:

That's the worst part.

40% of people who used it probably didn't even post. It was a great place to check out the latest conditions from people who'd been there. Pictures, video, etc. It let you know whether it was worth making the trip for a lot of people.

 

[AdironRider]

There was no attempt to control or moderate this pissing match if you ask me. Lost a pretty good resource as well as people have said. I always tried to give honest opinions on the conditions there.

 

[andyzee]

Hmm... kind of wierd, I never really checked that site out. I did check out earlier today out desperation in looking for snow

 

[thetrailboss]

Sigh.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Well, you know that from this forum . . . Put up a thread entitled Whiteface is Icy and has no character, and see how long it takes highpeaksdrifter to assemble a point by point rebuttal to your post.

Over/Under is 45 minutes

Yeah I stick up for my turf. U don't like it too freakin bad. BTW alot of others stick up for the mountain they call home too.

 

[Mike_451]

a big ole pissin match :flame:

Now it's ruined for everyone. Guess some people just can't get along.

Lets not let Skimrv get that way ;-)

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Lets not let Skimrv get that way ;-)

I hear ya...it's gettin pretty wild over there......:wink::lol:

 

[Greg]

Yes, today I pulled the plug on the SkiADK forum. It may seem abrupt, but this has been a long time coming. Actually, I battled with a few of the charter members since the board's outset; particularly freeheelwilly. I started the forum as a personal favor to highpeaksdrifter after Whiteface/ORDA pulled the plug on the RSN ADK forum because it got out of control. Many of the old RSN Whiteface members were the first to join. Initially I set up the forum using the same model as AlpineZone; which some may argue is overmoderated. I really don't think it is, but that's another debate/discussion. The goal was to get the forum linked back up with whiteface.com and because of the rapport I built with ORDA and with AZ as a model, they agreed.

Soon after the link was established, freeheelwilly and company demonstrated their contempt for the approach and continually berated me for it. Eventually FHW was banned from AZ and by default he was also banned from SkiADK. I was urged to let him back on. Apparently he and his inner circle are so integral to the Whiteface scene that I was convinced they were all more of an asset than a liability. So the battles between that group and me continued. Despite the difference in philosphy as to how the forum should be run, I decided to back off and let them shape the board. I even implemented some of their recommendations. Nevertheless, the little jabs continued and I eventually started to feed into their taunts. Still I left the moderation and banning decisions to HPD.

The beginning of the end was when woodlandclown (posting as sleestak and Tsavalion on SkiADK) started baiting me here. The last straw was this week when her boyfriend, Phineas, trolled yet again on SkiADK; this time taking personal shots at some of my now real-life friends from AZ. So, again, I jabbed back and eventually FHW chimed in and suggested since I've never skied at Whiteface, I'm not qualified to run the board. So in a final big F-U, they got their wish. Again, it may seem like this decision was made in haste, but it's been a long time coming.

I'm sorry to those that did find the forum useful, but probably more than half of the 8,000 posts on that forum were made by this small clique, and most of them contained little if any on topic content. They really wanted to have their own little chat room and in the end, yes, a small group ruined it for everyone. So next time you see freeheelwilly, Phineas, or Tsavalion AKA sleestak AKA woodlandclown on the hill, you can thank them for the forum's demise. I made every effort possible for 18 months; again at one point staying totally hands-off, and I still was disrespected and ridiculed. All I ever hoped for was a little civility. Even HPD was showing signs of frustration towards the end; almost reliquishing his moderator role. That's basically the whole story. FHW and company will come up with a whole host of other stories and conspiracy theories. Believe what you want.

If anyone wants to discuss this further, please PM me.