SkiADK Gone?

[ski_resort_observer]

I'll get over it too, but right now I feel a sense of loss and to some extent betrayal. I approached Greg with the ADK idea to replace the RSN forum when it got shut down. I hoped for a place where people who liked WF as much as I do could meet again to discuss the goings on there. Some of the people who I thought would like this new community the most where the ones who seemed to go out of their way to bring it down. If they didn’t like that forum or the way it was run they should have went somewhere else and left it to those of us who did like it. If you don’t like the service at a ski shop you don’t burn it down you take your business somewhere else.

IMO simple pleasures help us get through our daily lives. I liked going to ADK to see what was new, to chat with people about WF I knew personally and those I only knew by their screen names. I also liked taking pics at WF and posting them. Sounds kinda dumb but I liked it.

Greg showed a lot of patience for along time and I appreciate everything he did. My attentions where good, and I really was trying to help out not just myself, but my “friends” in the old RSN community. I guess it’s true that no good deed goes unpunished.

I know it was just a ski forum, and I’m not one to hold a grudge, but right now I’m kinda pissed about the whole thing. Like I said though I'll get over it.

HPD, I for one commend you for your efforts and you should feel good about your willingness to try and offer another venue for the LP/Whiteface forum.

 

[takeahike46er]

I find the actions of 2knees to be repulsive. His conduct was just as unruly as those that started this whole mess. The fact that he gloats about his actions makes it all the more unsettling.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

I find the actions of 2knees to be repulsive. His conduct was just as unruly as those that started this whole mess. The fact that he gloats about his actions makes it all the more unsettling.

Maybe thats all true but at least he had the balls to step up to the plate and take the abuse now, not sure too many other people in here would do that!

 

[2knees]

I find the actions of 2knees to be repulsive. His conduct was just as unruly as those that started this whole mess. The fact that he gloats about his actions makes it all the more unsettling.

where did i gloat? show me the post.

If you knew anything, you would know i had NOTHING to do with skiadk being shut down. Come down off your high horse anytime.

 

[BeanoNYC]

Lets take a step back for a second.

I like 2Knees. He is a great contributor here and a nice guy. FHW on the other hand had probably made each of us "uncomfortable" at one time or the other. I'm going to give 2K the benefit of the doubt. Something had to set him off and I can forgive and forget for something that is out of his everyday character. What is in 2K's character was his willingness to admit his part and face the music.

My heart goes out to Greg and HPD who are obviously hurting over the ENTIRE skiadk situation, not just the 2K thing.

Again, I've been MIA for personal reasons lately and haven't followed along but this is my gut reaction. I've never been one to keep my opinion to myself.

 

[Greg]

Nobody should be putting any blame on 2knees for what happened. Pat and I are friends outside of the Internet now and he's a good guy. The guys over at SkiADK wanted a lighter hand there in terms of moderation so when the "line is crossed" is a pretty subjective opinion. It's tough to run a board that way - just ask skidork about K-zone. I think Pat was in some way sticking up for me after woodlandclown's latest taunts here; again the latest of many from that group. Yeah, his posts were over the top, but again they didn't last long and I asked Pat to not do it again. The last straw for me was Phineas's latest taunts and direct slams on AlpineZone and some of the members here. They were made obviously to draw a response from me or "free my willy". The funny thing is the last few times they baited me I bit and more often than not out-debated them. Eventually, FHW would surly chime in with stuff like "you're a fucking tool, Greg". I guess that's acceptable while Pat's posts weren't? So again, that board was destined to fail pretty much right from the start. I'm sorry again to the legitimate users; especially those from Gore. Unfortunately in this case, a few rotten apples spoiled the barrel.

 

[mattchuck2]

I guess I don't know all the details . . .

It seems, though, from an outsiders perspective, that some of the people over there said some stuff that people didn't like. People here (2knees) responded by going over there and dropping bombs all over the place. This probably enraged the people over there more, and they started upping their level of vitriol, causing the site to be shut down.

I just wish that the problem could've been solved early, nipped in the bud before the level got to be too ridiculous.

That's the impression that I got out of it, but like I said, I wasn't really privy to all the conversations in the background.

Still, though, should we hold the entire site responsible because of the behavior of a few sick, depraved individuals? For if we do, isn't the entire internet community to blame? Isn't this an indictment of our Communications system in general? I put it to you, Greg . . . You can do with us what you wish, but I will not sit here and let you bad mouth The United States of America! Gentlemen!

 

[Greg]

I just wish that the problem could've been solved early, nipped in the bud before the level got to be too ridiculous.

Likewise. I really wish I just followed my gut and just banned those rogue members early on. Again, I was asked not to because despite acting like high schoolers, these few were apparently pretty knowledgable of Whiteface and the LP area. I'm certainly not putting any blame on HPD. He was probably put in the most difficult situation of all of us and he maintained his integrity the entire time. He knows FHW and company personally so he was straddling a pretty thin line, and did the best he could given the circumstances. Sad really. He advocated for them and although indirectly, they still slighted him.

 

[mattchuck2]

No, I agree. HPD did a great job, and, from what I can tell, fought tooth and nail to keep the site going. He did a great job moderating for the site's entire existence, and should be commended for all the hard work that he put into it. Thanks, HPD, if you ever get another site going, let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

 

[ajl50]

Tooo much talking about this at this point. It's gone. No need to explain anymore Greg. No need to express anyother opinions. No SkiADK. That's the story. Move on.

 

[mattchuck2]

Tooo much talking about this at this point. It's gone. No need to explain anymore Greg. No need to express anyother opinions. No SkiADK. That's the story. Move on.

C'mon, man . . . It's May 20th. It's raining. There's still 6 months 'til ski season. If you don't like the thread, don't read it, but at least realize that people want to know what happened. It's not really a "nothing to see here, move along" situation. Might as well discuss this, there's not much else to do until the sun comes out.

 

[jack97]

Still, though, should we hold the entire site responsible because of the behavior of a few sick, depraved individuals? For if we do, isn't the entire internet community to blame? Isn't this an indictment of our Communications system in general?

I haven't been keeping up with all that has been going on. However, no one is stopping these other posters from forming another board. If they want to resurrect this, they should have the motivation to do this themselves. Greg does not hold the monopoly nor the secrets of hosting ski related forums. I would also venture to guess that Greg has better things to do with his time than to deal with these depraved individuals.

 

[C2H5OH]

...Now you want to draw a line in the sand as to whats too much or too offensive?...

IMO there is a simple rule - one should not post whatever he would not say to someone personally

...And dont waste my time with the hiding behind an alias garbage. Your lovely friend woodlandclown didnt use her name from skiadk ...

C2H5OH is my handle on AZ, it happened to be different from one I used on skiadk. Personally i don't know anyone from skiadk board and not defending them.

...For what it's worth, if my 9 posts on a wednesday night at after 10:00pm that were deleted by 8:00 am the next day were enough to bring an entire board down, then it wasnt going anywhere anyway.

It was enough for ORDA to notice and alert skiadk admin. ORDA's Whiteface web site had a "Forums" link to SkiAdk, which was bringing members. I don't think you caused the board to go down though.

 

[2knees]

IMO there is a simple rule - one should not post whatever he would not say to someone personally


C2H5OH is my handle on AZ, it happened to be different from one I used on skiadk. Personally i don't know anyone from skiadk board and not defending them.


It was enough for ORDA to notice and alert skiadk admin. ORDA's Whiteface web site had a "Forums" link to SkiAdk, which was bringing members. I don't think you caused the board to go down though.

well for whatever it may be worth, i understand it wasnt the smartest thing to do. I cant undo it, i just have to live with it.


I'm done. I've explained my actions as best as i can. I'm not totally defending myself nor am i going to sit here and say i'm 100% sorry i did it. It is what it is.

 

[Jack the Ripper]

That sucks

 

[Jack the Ripper]

well here i am. and yes, my posts were purposefully disgusting and over the top. You have members over there coming onto this board and others for over a year with the sole purpose of trolling/insulting/abusing members and the board in general. You want to play, so i played. But i guess its only fair if you play within YOUR guidelines of acceptable insults. Now you want to draw a line in the sand as to whats too much or too offensive? Give me a break. Push people far enough and long enough and you'll get a response. Did I offend you? Boo hoo.

And dont waste my time with the hiding behind an alias garbage. Your lovely friend woodlandclown didnt use her name from skiadk.

That's bush league all the way. Talk about dropping down to their level. Too bad your judgement isn't as good as your ability to ski bumps. :roll:

 

[jack97]

That's bush league all the way. Talk about dropping down to their level. Too bad your judgement isn't as good as your ability to ski bumps. :roll:

Easy dude, a single night of bad judgement when compared to a long period time can be easily overlooked. Constant lack of judgement is a different matter.

 

[BeanoNYC]

Easy dude, a single night of bad judgement when compared to a long period time can be easily overlooked. Constant lack of judgement is a different matter.

Exactly. Cut the man some slack. He's a good dude! :smash:

 

[Chris I]

I say we just start up the gore forum. there was never really any problems there, we've always known it was those facer's that brought the bad vibes;-)

-lbtchnlgs

 

[Harvey]

Start up a Gore forum

How do we do that?