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SkiADK Gone?

ski_resort_observer

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I think everything has been said on this subject I vote for the mods to lock this baby up so things don't flare up anymore than they have. If some folks want to start their own forum that sounds cool, start a thread as a resource or as a few have suggested you could do a Gore thread. After all, if your civil and respectful you can do most anything you want in here.:D
 

C2H5OH

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I say we just start up the gore forum. there was never really any problems there, we've always known it was those facer's that brought the bad vibes;-)

-lbtchnlgs

How do we do that?

To be honest there was not too many posts in Gore forum. Since everyone visiting SkiAdk is being redirected here you guys might want to just maintain your own thread. If that isn't enough, you could ask admin to create a folder under "Skiing and Snowboarding"

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Denis
 

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yea yea yea all hail to 2k, but i wonder how youd feel about him if he had something to do with crashing your beloved sitedown. i know hes not the only one, but he says he played right along with the others. and none of you will suffer, its just us over here that really enjoyed that site.
 

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yea yea yea all hail to 2k, but i wonder how youd feel about him if he had something to do with crashing your beloved sitedown..

I'll say it one more time. Pat did not cause the demise of SkiADK. freeheelwilly and company did. That's where all the finger pointing should go.
 
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Greg

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Oh and let me leave everyone with one final thought. This is precisely why I try to present myself online the same as I am in person. If at some point I ever fail to do so, I'd hope my AZ friends would call me on it. I'm never to proud to admit that I'm wrong. HPD assured me that FHW was a good guy, but I would never guess that from some of the posts he made on SkiADK. Why would I even want to ski with a guy like that? On the other hand, Pat is a good guy, and the "free my willy" persona was a single night of stupidness and is not how Pat is in person. He should not be getting hanged for one night of troll posts, when FHW and company hammered me for 18 months. The latter is probably a better indication of overall character. In any event, keep it real everyone; you never know who you might meet in person from these forums...
 

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Thanks to you guys who thought I did a good job as a mod.

Pat has taken heat for being the cause of shutting down ADK, but it isn’t the case.

Here’s the chain of events:

I see the posts he made not knowing it was Pat.
I PM Greg saying I want to PM free my willy and tell him if he doesn’t stop he will be banned and will Greg back me up? Greg says no, it isn’t much worse then some other flaming that was going on, but he would PM fmw and tell him to tone it down a little.

Minutes later I get a PM from Greg telling me that ORDA emailed him and didn’t like the posts FMW made and I better lock the threads. This is what I was afraid of so I didn’t lock them I started deleting them and Greg did as well.

Later on that day a ADK poster put up a thread to the effect that people in Greg’s movie where posers. Clearly Greg was being bated and Greg took it, but I think Greg knew that too and off they went. I don’t blame Greg for fighting back, I never start with anyone myself, but I sure will counter punch if someone starts with me.

Anyway the thread got nasty and Greg said he had enough and he was going to pull the plug.

So you see Pat really didn’t shut it down at all. Think about it, Pat went to ADK on a revenge mission for his friend Greg. Greg is the only one who can pull the plug on a forum so why would he end it because Pat was sticking up for him?

I met Pat, skied with him and thought he was a good guy and would ski with him again. I don’t like what he did on ADK because it made the forum look bad to ORDA.

I ski and have beers with FreeHeelWilly and Phinnes sometimes, they’re good guys too, but I don’t like what they did at ADK.

I don’t know what it is about forums; people who don’t even know each other can get real nasty to one another. None of these 3 guys are assholes; I really don’t know how it all came to this.

One last thing, I feel bad for the Gore guys cause their forum was not involved, yet they went down with the ship. Also a lot of WF regulars are bummed who had nothing to do with it, that sucks too.
 

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Forgot who was suppose to hike gore this weekend, I was looking forward to the report. If you end up finding this thread... How was it?

-lbtchnlgs
 

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Nobody should be putting any blame on 2knees for what happened. Pat and I are friends outside of the Internet now and he's a good guy. [. . .]Unfortunately in this case, a few rotten apples spoiled the barrel.


Sorry to add fuel to the fire, but I really enjoyed the Whiteface/Gore boards (where I posted under this handle), and felt like I wanted to say something to make peace with what happened. I realize this post is a bit late in the chain, but I was out of town and just now caught up with everything. Feel free to ignore the rest of this post....

Greg, it's 100% your right to do what you did. I just think your reasons for doing so weren't rational or defensible.

I take issue with your defense of your friend Pat (aka 2knees/free my willy). What he did was 100% wrong and inconsistent with what you're complaining about. From what I can tell, Whiteface complained about his posts just before the shut down, not FHW's, but your decision to shut the site down was because of FHW and the (admittedly usually annoying) crew of his. Pat should be banned, but, since he's your friend, I guess he gets a free pass. Far be it from me to tell anyone how they should "feel," but I just don't understand your feelings of being "baited" by the FHW crew. Why not just ignore them? Or ban them? All this just seems a little petty and infantile to me. The final straw was someone making fun of the skiers in a video of yours? I would think, as administrator, that you'd have experience with those type of posts and "know when to say when."

In the end, I think you disregarded the majority of people properly using the forum because your feelings were hurt by three or four idiots. That's a little sad, especially since I've read (as a guest) much worse threads in terms of content on this site (but, none of them personally attacked you, so I guess they're OK).

Oh well. Back to thinking about mowing the lawn and tuning the skis for next season.
 
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Hi Comebackmudpuddles
I now know what happen was a case of this being the "this is the last straw" kind of situation. It was accumulative over time and it finally reach the point of " I have had enough of this".
I could foresee that Greg ran the risk of looking like he was "bending the rules" or "playing favorite" for his friends. I have read enough here to get the sense that Greg regards putting the ban on some one only as a last resort and only after exhausting other avenues first with that individual.
Pat has been a major contributor here on this forum. I have even benefited from his generosity. One act does not make a trend. I think the public " I understand.. but don't do that again" approach is all that is required in this case.
Now a positive out of all this .. I am going to meet people I probably never would have other wise.


Jerry,

Point taken. Thanks very much for your thoughts. In an ideal world, people wouldn't post horrible things, but c'est la vie. I'm also a big supporter of second chances.

I'm glad I'm not Greg right now, and I thank him for his hard work.

RIP, Whiteface/Gore boards.
 

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MudPuddles, in your first post you rip everyone you mentioned a new asshole as if everything is always clear cut and no one ever makes a mistake.

Your 2nd post is "Thanks for everything Greg" and "I'm a big believer in 2nd chances".

Which is it? Maybe you should get down off your high horse, the air might be a little too thin up their and is causing you to make conflicting comments.
 
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