The Mogul Addiction

[Greg]

This thread can be kinda like group therapy for the mogul nuts. So explain this condition to me. What is it about our make-up that causes us to become fixated with skiing bumps? Why can't "other" skiers understand it? Sometimes I do wonder if there is something biological about it.

 

[Greg]

genetic defect? :razz:

That may very well be. I'd prefer to think it's an example of evolution though.

 

[mondeo]

On a side note, K-zone has better smilies than here.

 

[Greg]

I don't think I'm beating a dead horse. Sure kind of a side topic based on all the Killington talk lately, and maybe it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but in a way I'm serious. 2knees, powhunter, bvibert, powbmps, 180, etc. are all guys that are fixated on bumps for the most part. I thought you were one of us too, mondy. :razz: Just curious why some people get totally hooked, and others sorta can take them or leave them, or maybe even avoid them all together.

 

[Greg]

Same reason some people prefer fishing over golf ..

I don't think that's a good analogy. We're talking about bump skiing vs. groomer skiing. Both skiing, just different disciplines. Probably more accurate to compare it to something like 18 holes on a regulation course (bump skiing) to the driving range or mini golf course (groomer skiing). One takes a full set of skill, the other is kinda just like practice or playing pretend. :razz:

I'm kidding.

 

[Greg]

I see your point .. kind of like in snowboarding there are the park rats and then there are the all mountain riders ..

danny_p is an all mountain rider. He just rides the terrain whatever it is and is a pleasure to watch. dmc too.

 

[Beetlenut]

genetic defect? :razz:

That may very well be. I'd prefer to think it's an example of evolution though.

People with ADD are known to become hyperfocused and fixated on one thing.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

This thread can be kinda like group therapy for the mogul nuts. So explain this condition to me. What is it about our make-up that causes us to become fixated with skiing bumps? Why can't "other" skiers understand it? Sometimes I do wonder if there is something biological about it.

There might be something biological about the constant need to talk about basically the same thing ad nauseam. Don’t give me the “If you don’t like it don’t read it take” cause you somehow work it into about every post you make. It’s obnoxious.

It's almost like this isn't a ski forum anymore. It's becoming one dimensional.

I like to ski moguls and pretty much everything else on the mountain. I think guys like me are fading into the silent minority around here.

 

[drjeff]

I like to ski moguls and pretty much everything else on the mountain. I think guys like me are fading into the silent minority around here.

+1

I got your back there HPD!

 

[deadheadskier]

A wise man once said, "Our audience is like people who like licorice. Not everyone likes licorice, but the people who do like licorice, REALLY like licorice"

Jerry Garcia


Substitute audience for bump skiers and there's your answer

 

[snoseek]

True mogul skiers seem like perfection artist, same with park skiers, racers, ect.....there is nothing wrong with that. You guys from Conneticut are a product of your environment maybe as seeded bumps at your local hils is probably the most interesting thing going on....other than risking breaking your ass in the park. Screw it might as well do something productive (sort of) after work then watch another episode of American idol.

Watching the tr's and vids many of you have much better bump skills than me. I ski lots of bumps but am not nearly as patient to slow down and analyze it.

You know come to think of it I suck at seeded moguls for whatever reason but have no problem skiing well through steep giant bumps like Pali, Hardscrabble, Taos... I really can't get it together in small tight bumps

 

[BushMogulMaster]

I like powder. I like trees. I like groomers (for about 1 run). I like crud. I like corn. Hell, I even get a kick out of ice sometimes! It just happens that I feel most at home in the bumps.

There are a variety of reasons. It's challenging. Every run is different, even if you ski the same line all day. It's not only physically challenging, but mentally. Thinking ahead, looking ahead, making decisions, deciding where to get in the air a bit, etc. It can make a small mountain seem big, and otherwise mediocre terrain kinda interesting. Mogul skiing has its roots in sheer fun! Hot doggin oldschool style. Bumps are fun. There is a definite camaraderie amongst mogul skiers. We're quick to seek advice, and equally as quick to offer it. We like to talk about our sport. We like to refine our skills. There is an aspect of nearly every kind of turn in the mogul turn.

Perhaps what keeps me coming back is the fact that I truly believe it is IMPOSSIBLE to master. Watch the best bumps skiers' best runs, and a keen eye will find a knee split or a flat ski pivot, or even something as minute as a little shoulder bobble. There is ALWAYS room for improvement, always that next level to aspire to. The same could likely be argued for any style of skiing, but in mogul skiing, it is those little technicalities that make it so interesting, and so addictive to me. That constant desire to master something that is impossible to master........

However, unlike my friend Greg, I decided to take the discussion elsewhere :wink:

http://forums.mogulskiing.net

 

[Greg]

There might be something biological about the constant need to talk about basically the same thing ad nauseam. Don’t give me the “If you don’t like it don’t read it take” cause you somehow work it into about every post you make. It’s obnoxious.

Wow. Tell me how you really feel, Skip. I guess I asked for that though. I thought about what you posted for a bit, and I guess I should be appreciating the brutal honesty. Perhaps it is time for me to more carefully consider the content and quantity of my posts. I'm sure you're not the only one that finds me obnoxious and repetitive.

 

[riverc0il]

I don't think any one poster is obnoxious about bump posts. But there is a certain inane quantity about the shear volume of such posts taken as a whole across the entire forum. Started as a joke it seems but it does get old. Sometimes it seems there is a bit of a defensive tone like bumpers are trying to defend the obsessive one dimensional approach to skiing. I understand the bumper point of view. That is how I was when I first got off the groomers: all bumps all the time and only bumps. So I get it. I hear what HPD is saying about the silent minority. When the majority of posts are bumps and Sundown, it is easy to take a backseat.

For you CT'ers, it is really cool what you guys have done to promote bumps, especially at your local hill. It is not biological, IMO. It is social. You guys when out and changed the perception and trail management at your local mountain and you all ski the same stuff together. And bumps are pretty much the end all and be all of challenge in CT. So its cool, but social and geographical issues play more than biological. Though I think anyone obsessed with any aspect of skiing probably has certain brain centers that crave certain stimulus: challenge, self improvement, pushing boundaries, etc. Same for anyone regardless of what terrain they obsess over. Be it a one dimensional obsession or multi-dimensional, most of us have our need to fulfill something in ourselves.

 

[campgottagopee]

There might be something biological about the constant need to talk about basically the same thing ad nauseam. Don’t give me the “If you don’t like it don’t read it take” cause you somehow work it into about every post you make. It’s obnoxious.

It's almost like this isn't a ski forum anymore. It's becoming one dimensional.

I like to ski moguls and pretty much everything else on the mountain. I think guys like me are fading into the silent minority around here.

I don't think any one poster is obnoxious about bump posts. But there is a certain inane quantity about the shear volume of such posts taken as a whole across the entire forum. Started as a joke it seems but it does get old. Sometimes it seems there is a bit of a defensive tone like bumpers are trying to defend the obsessive one dimensional approach to skiing. I understand the bumper point of view. That is how I was when I first got off the groomers: all bumps all the time and only bumps. So I get it. I hear what HPD is saying about the silent minority. When the majority of posts are bumps and Sundown, it is easy to take a backseat.

For you CT'ers, it is really cool what you guys have done to promote bumps, especially at your local hill. It is not biological, IMO. It is social. You guys when out and changed the perception and trail management at your local mountain and you all ski the same stuff together. And bumps are pretty much the end all and be all of challenge in CT. So its cool, but social and geographical issues play more than biological. Though I think anyone obsessed with any aspect of skiing probably has certain brain centers that crave certain stimulus: challenge, self improvement, pushing boundaries, etc. Same for anyone regardless of what terrain they obsess over. Be it a one dimensional obsession or multi-dimensional, most of us have our need to fulfill something in ourselves.

Well said gentlemen. I wish I could communicate thru this dang keyboard like that, but I can't (always have #'s zingin thru my head).

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Wow. Tell me how you really feel, Skip. I guess I asked for that though. I thought about what you posted for a bit, and I guess I should be appreciating the brutal honesty. Perhaps it is time for me to more carefully consider the content and quantity of my posts. I'm sure you're not the only one that finds me obnoxious and repetitive.

The tone of my post was unnecessarily harsh. I apologize.

 

[MogulQueen]

There might be something biological about the constant need to talk about basically the same thing ad nauseam. Don’t give me the “If you don’t like it don’t read it take” cause you somehow work it into about every post you make. It’s obnoxious.

It's almost like this isn't a ski forum anymore. It's becoming one dimensional.

I like to ski moguls and pretty much everything else on the mountain. I think guys like me are fading into the silent minority around here.

Wow, having a bad day??????? If you CAN think of something interesting to post, go for it! But since you DON'T seem to have any good ideas, don't knock others for theirs. I'm happy to share the same passion for bump skiing as Greg. I wish I could ski bumps every day, but since I can't, this seems to ease my addiction. Carry on Greg!!!! :beer:

 

[Grassi21]

Wow, having a bad day??????? If you CAN think of something interesting to post, go for it! But since you DON'T seem to have any good ideas, don't knock others for theirs. I'm happy to share the same passion for bump skiing as Greg. I wish I could ski bumps every day, but since I can't, this seems to ease my addiction. Carry on Greg!!!! :beer:

Well put.

 

[Greg]

The tone of my post was unnecessarily harsh. I apologize.

Thank you for that. Call me hypersensitive if you want to, but I would be lying if I didn't admit that one stung quite a bit; probably because there's a bit of truth to it. Anyway, point taken and apology accepted.

Wow, having a bad day??????? If you CAN think of something interesting to post, go for it! But since you DON'T seem to have any good ideas, don't knock others for theirs. I'm happy to share the same passion for bump skiing as Greg. I wish I could ski bumps every day, but since I can't, this seems to ease my addiction. Carry on Greg!!!! :beer:

No no no. You're new here, Jeanine. HPD has come up with more interesting different topics than probably anybody else. Thanks for having my back though. I know you "get" the mogul addiction too.

 

[severine]

People with ADD are known to become hyperfocused and fixated on one thing.

:lol: You might be on to something there.

There might be something biological about the constant need to talk about basically the same thing ad nauseam. Don’t give me the “If you don’t like it don’t read it take” cause you somehow work it into about every post you make. It’s obnoxious.

It's almost like this isn't a ski forum anymore. It's becoming one dimensional.

I like to ski moguls and pretty much everything else on the mountain. I think guys like me are fading into the silent minority around here.

I don't think any one poster is obnoxious about bump posts. But there is a certain inane quantity about the shear volume of such posts taken as a whole across the entire forum. Started as a joke it seems but it does get old. Sometimes it seems there is a bit of a defensive tone like bumpers are trying to defend the obsessive one dimensional approach to skiing. I understand the bumper point of view. That is how I was when I first got off the groomers: all bumps all the time and only bumps. So I get it. I hear what HPD is saying about the silent minority. When the majority of posts are bumps and Sundown, it is easy to take a backseat.

For you CT'ers, it is really cool what you guys have done to promote bumps, especially at your local hill. It is not biological, IMO. It is social. You guys when out and changed the perception and trail management at your local mountain and you all ski the same stuff together. And bumps are pretty much the end all and be all of challenge in CT. So its cool, but social and geographical issues play more than biological. Though I think anyone obsessed with any aspect of skiing probably has certain brain centers that crave certain stimulus: challenge, self improvement, pushing boundaries, etc. Same for anyone regardless of what terrain they obsess over. Be it a one dimensional obsession or multi-dimensional, most of us have our need to fulfill something in ourselves.

I think riverc0il did a great job tempering what hpd had to say. Without intentionally being harsh, because you guys know I luv ya, I have to agree that it does get to be a bit annoying to read about the same damn bump crap day in, day out. If I wanted to read about bumps all the time, I'd go to a bump board. I say this as a CT skier whose home hill is Sundown. I like the camaraderie, I like the hill, I like you guys, but I also like diversity.