The Mogul Addiction

[faceplant]

I like powder. I like trees. I like groomers (for about 1 run). I like crud. I like corn. Hell, I even get a kick out of ice sometimes! It just happens that I feel most at home in the bumps.http://forums.mogulskiing.net

+1

spring skiing=ya get what ya get

when they knock my bumps down i head over to the berm on trails edge- make my own simulatd bump run right on the side of a cruiser
bonus- nobodys ever there so i got it all to myslf
bonus- nice tight line
bonus- what a rush brushing along the trees if you can survive without eaitng bark


ok ok- it aint exactly a seeded bump run like gunbarell but hey it'l do in a pinch >so- make lemonade<

 

[faceplant]

it's not just a cruiser its a bump run!
it's not just a desert topping its a floor wax!

http://www.hulu.com/watch/61320/saturday-night-live-shimmer-floor-wax

 

[faceplant]

on a related note-

would somebody please tell me why they knock down our nice soft bumps in spring [that evrybody loves]

but they dont knock down huge ice bumps in midwintr [that nobody likes] ?



BTW- be thankful your out there- I'm working thru satrday
plus emergency root canal
no $ht

i"d gladly trade places!

>whine over<

 

[bvibert]

I think for me it's a product of my environment. If I had easy access to good tree and/or powder skiing on a regular basis I think I'd be just as passionate about that kind of skiing. I don't though, bump skiing is what keeps me interested and challenges me around here. If I didn't have local bumps I'm not sure if I'd get out as often as I do, but who knows I might be obsessed with making GS turns or skiing gates or whatever... nah I'd probably spend more time at home watching Simpson's re-runs...

 

[Highway Star]

I can see being addicted to skiing powder, but moguls? That's just silly.

 

[SKidds]

Hey, at least there is someone we can count on around here . Just when we start talking about how annoying all the bump talk is, someone comes along and reminds us there are much more annoying things on this board.......

PS - I don't think all the bump talk is annoying, but I do just pass on some of the bump threads now and again. Keep up the passion and the posting Greg, we can handle it.

On the subject at hand, the bump addition for most just has to do with what they find fun, as BMM pointed out. Some people don't want the phsical punishment of bumps, or the constant challenge. So they stay away. I like the challenge the bumps provide, the constantly changing terrain...I think bumps are fun, but when I ski I spend equal amounts of time on the steeps or in the trees.

As others have pointed out, a big part of the addiction for some is what they have available. I've skied Sundown twice and think it is a cool little hill. Good size for a little hill, too. But without the bumps there wouldn't be much to interest most advanced skiers there, other than just the opportunity to be on the snow. So at Sundown it is somewhat of a forced addiction......but what a cool one it is!

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

when the bumps are nice I'm addicted...back in March..Barneys Bumps were epic and me and NazarethSkier Jay kept lapping them..skiing bumps in a group is way better..when I ski bumps alone..I go too fast and don't turn enough and sometimes get out of the zipperline but when following someone, I go slower and I'm in more control...we had some sweet PASR bump trains going with 8-10 of us skiing the same line mere feet apart,,

Skiing is an addiction...bumps, speed, air, powder, cold air, snow...it's all good..

 

[jaywbigred]

... Some people don't want the phsical punishment of bumps, or the constant challenge....

This is the reason I love bumps. To me, bumps make skiing a contact sport. Not all people like to play contact sports. I get that. But there is something about the physical demands of it that make it addicting to me. I knew guys in high school who felt this way about playing linebacker or lax. And then, of course, there is the wonderfully elusive technical side, which appeals to the golfer in me.

Maybe its masochistic to want to be physically punished like that, I dunno, but I like.

Another thought is that bumps are like a horror movie: thrilling but the risk that is thrilling you is not real. They are difficult, you may fall, etc...but your average bump run isn't going to result in the same kind of injury as, oh, say a 30 foot cliff huck or a ridiculously steep and narrow chute or even an inverted aerial in the park. So in bump skiing, their is the difficulty and challenge and thrill that comes with other so-called expert forms of skiing, but without as high a risk for mortal injury. That risk, in the bumps, is more of an illusion.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

This is the reason I love bumps. To me, bumps make skiing a contact sport. Not all people like to play contact sports. I get that. But there is something about the physical demands of it that make it addicting to me. I knew guys in high school who felt this way about playing linebacker or lax. And then, of course, there is the wonderfully elusive technical side, which appeals to the golfer in me.

Maybe its masochistic to want to be physically punished like that, I dunno, but I like.

Another thought is that bumps are like a horror movie: thrilling but the risk that is thrilling you is not real. They are difficult, you may fall, etc...but your average bump run isn't going to result in the same kind of injury as, oh, say a 30 foot cliff huck or a ridiculously steep and narrow chute or even an inverted aerial in the park. So in bump skiing, their is the difficulty and challenge and thrill that comes with other so-called expert forms of skiing, but without as high a risk for mortal injury. That risk, in the bumps, is more of an illusion.

wow good explanation..

 

[Beetlenut]

So in bump skiing, their is the difficulty and challenge and thrill that comes with other so-called expert forms of skiing, but without as high a risk for mortal injury. That risk, in the bumps, is more of an illusion.

My illusion is pretty much all healed up, though it does hurt every morning when I wake up. I won't give up skiing bumps though.

 

[4aprice]

Bumps are my favorite type of skiing outside of double digit powder out west. For me and the skiing I do here they keep my interest level up. I like groomers too, particularly in the morning when my 48 year old muscles are taking their time warming up. But only running groomers will cause me to end my day by say 1:00 pm while bumps keep me skiing till 4:00.

Good bumps make you turn at certain spots and sometimes that is not so easy to do. Thats why I feel my past experience in racing has helped in skiing bumps.

I have been a big fan of the Sundown crew and their tr's. I have been pushing the people in Camelback management that I know to take note of what they are doing there. They certainly have been good to the park crowd and now I would like to see another segment of the skiing population taken care of. Camelback certainly has the terrain to please almost everyone and I feel some more moguls on the mountain would not rob those who do not like them of very much.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

 

[faceplant]

did any of you bumpers check out 'sagamore' at gore--the new real looooooong trail with wall 2 wall bumps?


bonus- next season itll have snowmaking

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

bump

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

I was hyper focused on bump skiing from 10-20yrs old...then moved to Squaw for a winter and started skiing more than the same one or two runs out at a mountain...moved back east, started skiing trees, got a pair of 210 GS boards, still skied lotsa bumps too...but became a much more versatile all mountain skier. Yes, skiing bumps takes skill and lots of mileage, I guess I feel I became proficient enough and decided to expand my skiing bag of tricks...fast forward a few more years, then shape skis arrive, I moved to CO, powder, cliffs, trees...still some bumps from time to time...then terrain parks start exploding, skiers are allowed in halfpipes, etc...I turned 30..then 31, then....add a few more years...and now I'll ski bumps when their good or my buddies have their bump jones on. For a number of years I'd follow them into the bumps but while they wiggled and giggled, swivled, pivoted and slammed, I'd make big GS turns through them...just to mix it up...and I was usually on a ski with 2 sheets of metal. Pow bumps are a blast, spring bumps are a blast...but the rest of the time I'm having more fun somewhere else...hafpipe, trees, or just hauling ass on the groomers...YES, I said GROOMERS...and I'm not ashamed to admit it, nor do I feel it somehow makes me less of a skier...far from it. So, for all you bump freaks, good for you...rip 'em up and enjoy them...I'll see you in there when they are primo...I'll be the guy linking GS turns with a few zipperlines then back to GS turns...cause I think its fun.

 

[thorski]

Once there is enough cover and you can ski the trees i don't see the point in skiing anything else unless it is to get to another tree area. I love the bumps in the trees

 

[Riverskier]

I can't imagine spending most of my time on only one discipline. I would have to say tree skiing in fresh snow is my favorite, but I love it all. Bumps, groomers, glades, steeps, cruisers, you name it, it's all fun, and the variety keeps the sport exciting and challenging. And to those who say that skiing groomers is easy and/or boring, I couldn't disagree more. Carving perfect turns (which I certainly can't do) is one of the most difficult things to perfect. Not to mention I probably feel more of an adrenaline rush arcing turns at high speeds on a groomer than I do skiing anything else.

 

[mondeo]

I can't imagine spending most of my time on only one discipline. I would have to say tree skiing in fresh snow is my favorite, but I love it all. Bumps, groomers, glades, steeps, cruisers, you name it, it's all fun, and the variety keeps the sport exciting and challenging. And to those who say that skiing groomers is easy and/or boring, I couldn't disagree more. Carving perfect turns (which I certainly can't do) is one of the most difficult things to perfect. Not to mention I probably feel more of an adrenaline rush arcing turns at high speeds on a groomer than I do skiing anything else.

To me, groomers are for perfectionists, bumps are for those who like complexity. Saying that one is harder than the other is something that's way overdone; when it comes down to it, everything is relative. It may be harder to go at 50% speed relative to WC level in the bumps than on groomers, but it probably takes about the same amount of effort to ski bumps as well as the average skier as it does to ski groomers as well as the average skier.

It's just probably easier to pick out the top notch bump skiers than the top notch carvers because there's much more going on visually with a bumper than a carver. Knees going up and down constantly, quick turns, while the upper body just stays still is easy to pick out. Someone making that perfectly carved turn is harder to pick out relative to someone that can carve decently, because the difference is one of precision.

 

[Geoff]

To me, groomers are for perfectionists, bumps are for those who like complexity.

Zipper line bumps are for people with intact ACLs. I prefer to ski ungroomed terrain but I liked mogul skiing back when everybody was on 200+ cm straight skis. Short shaped skis and snowboards make for some pretty pathetic moguls.

 

[mondeo]

Zipper line bumps are for people with intact ACLs. I prefer to ski ungroomed terrain but I liked mogul skiing back when everybody was on 200+ cm straight skis. Short shaped skis and snowboards make for some pretty pathetic moguls.

The nice thing about the newer style bump skiing is that it's easier on the knees. A truly quiet upper body means that your legs aren't constantly stopping the movement of your upper body, which in turn means they're applying no more force than when you're standing up. They're just moving fast.

And don't forget the tele skis. I hate tele skiers in the bumps*.

*Truly proficient people on short skis, long skis, snowboards, or tele skis are ok. Just the ones that constantly stop their movement by skidding into the front of a bump screw things up.

 

[Greg]

Plenty of people on this forum with reconstructed knees that still ski zipperlines...