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The skiing stereotype of being well off

wa-loaf

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And this all comes free! No one pays for it - that's cool!

That's not what he's saying, but a few states have been posting the rates (NY, California and Mississippi I've seen in the news) and they are less that you would normally pay for the equivalent coverage. There's a lot to shake out with this program and I'm sure it will be good for some and maybe worse for others. I think overall it's a good thing and I just wish people would focus more on trying to fix the parts that aren't working well instead of trashing the whole thing.
 

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And this all comes free! No one pays for it - that's cool!

Of course we do..
One thing i like is people that can afford insurance now have to have it or they are penalized..
No more free loading off the health care system for those who can afford it.. no more using the emergency room as a provider..

I have had to suffer to pay for insurance my whole working life - it's about time others did as well...
 

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No you can find a better insurance company if you don't like your current provider.
And they have to take you with pre existing conditions..

A good thing!!

My point exactly - if my insurance company does not cover enough with my current provider, I will find an insurance offer that pays more with a different provider so I can payless!

That mitigates the risk of costs associated with injury while skiing/snowboarding!
 

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My point exactly - if my insurance company does not cover enough with my current provider, I will find an insurance offer that pays more with a different provider so I can payless!

That mitigates the risk of costs associated with injury while skiing/snowboarding!

I basically worked to afford good health care so I could deal with skiing injuries...
When I didn't have it - I was always timid when skiing...
 

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How about World Series Ticket holders at Fenway - craziness! These people are well off!

Infield Grandstand 11
Row 12 | Qty 2-4
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$11,783.55

That is a whole lot of skiing my friends! From StubHub - obviously someone is out to try an make a killing! However do not fret - there are cheaper tickets - $624! Ya right rather spend money on ski gear!
 

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Another thing is skiing is communal in the sense you can share a lot of stuff...
Rent a condo with friends.. etc.. Keeps costs down..
 

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For the fun of it! Last year's lift ticket rates vs 20 years ago. I know my income did not go up that much

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to think that Stowe is $98 this coming season! Close to the $100 mark - wow!
 
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....to think that Stowe is $98 this coming season! Close to the $100 mark - wow!

I think Stowe is one place I will never ski..... I don't see the point of making a long drive up there to pay that price when there are places close by where I pay less and still have a blast. It doesn't take much to make that happen, just one decent line.

Saddleback on the other hand is still on my list.
 

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I think Stowe is one place I will never ski..... I don't see the point of making a long drive up there to pay that price when there are places close by where I pay less and still have a blast. It doesn't take much to make that happen, just one decent line.
Yes it is expensive but worth trying once especially mid week, there are some ways to bring the cost down. The backcountry is epic and as close to west terrain and lots of snow.
I been there twice and I glad I went, I think anyone here should go once at least.
 

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I've been skiing Stowe since the days of cable bindings & double laced leather boots.

Would I pay $98 to ski there?

Probably not.

Still ski there several times a season.

Only skied 14 days last season (all in VT.) & 2 of them were at Stowe.

Would've been there a couple more days but got injured early Feb.

There is only one Stowe.
 

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Mount Mansfield = best combination of terrain and natural snow in the East.

I get that the walk up ticket price and season pass costs turn so many people off. I can't afford it regularly myself.

Still the best and I always regret seasons I don't make it back there for at least day.
 

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I think Stowe is one place I will never ski..... I don't see the point of making a long drive up there to pay that price when there are places close by where I pay less and still have a blast. It doesn't take much to make that happen, just one decent line.

Saddleback on the other hand is still on my list.

Saddleback's Kennebago Steeps are fun, lots of good glades! However, the trails on that side can get skied off quickly by skiers and snowboards who scrape their way down! Best when there are freshies everywhere! Unfortunately, to get there you need to go up the Rangley Double which is wicked slow. and skiing the other part of the mountain is painful! Runs are fine but that chair kills you especially if it is really cold!
 

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Mount Mansfield = best combination of terrain and natural snow in the East.

I get that the walk up ticket price and season pass costs turn so many people off. I can't afford it regularly myself.

Still the best and I always regret seasons I don't make it back there for at least day.

I am with jack97 - I probably will never ski there! If I do not ever go then I will never regret seasons I don't make it back there for at least day.

Even their half day is $84 - holy $%#^! I would definitely need a 2 fer or half price deal to go there!
 

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I think Stowe is one place I will never ski..... I don't see the point of making a long drive up there to pay that price when there are places close by where I pay less and still have a blast. It doesn't take much to make that happen, just one decent line.

Saddleback on the other hand is still on my list.

You must hate powder.
 

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Insurance is increasing across the board across the country! In order to support some of the rule changes that are now here or are soon to be forced on the general public the insurance companies will need to share the burden for the smaller part of the population across the larger part of the population. I am fortunate to work for a company who pays a majority of my insurance but the the out of pocket cost per visit has increased as well as deductibles.

I really thing that it was not well vetted and enough long range impact was considered it was a rush job for sure!

In any case, we have had our share of injuries in my family pre Obama Care and the cost were high already hate to see what it would be now. As far as being well off - I am not sure too many consider the potential health care cost aspect of it! I am sure they are referring to lift ticket costs, gear and lodging!

My company covers 75% of the cost but it is the out of pocket expenses that are going throught the roof. $2500 deductible for the family anf the max out of pocket goes to $7000. This is a big hit for a lot of people at workover the HMO Blue.
 
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