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VAIL SUCKS

cdskier

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For all the complaints Vail is currently dominating the most open terrain in the NE ranking

1) Mount Snow: 287 Acres
2) Okemo: 282 Acres
3) Sunday River: 255 Acres
4) Sugarbush: 240 Acres
5) Killington: 224 Acres

Sugarbush is my home mountain...but how the hell do they have more acres open than K?
 

skiur

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Sugarbush is my home mountain...but how the hell do they have more acres open than K?

Something wrong at K this year. Been told by management that staffing is not an issue this year but snowmaking is definitely lacking
 

drjeff

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Something wrong at K this year. Been told by management that staffing is not an issue this year but snowmaking is definitely lacking
There's a post over on K-Zone, with pics of the repair process, that their main feeder line from Woodward had a leak over in the area by where the $$$ town homes between Bear and Sunrise are, that required both some decent lead time to get enough of the 24" (I believe that's its diameter) and then get the plan of how to fix the leak as the section of pipe leaking was apparently in an inaccessible area under a bridge.

Additionally, the pump house down at Skye Base and where they draw additional water from the Ottaquechee River just across route 4, apparently still hasn't been fully repaired from the flooding back in June.

If that's the case,with the Woodward Pipe apparently finally fixed within the last week, they more than likely have been water limited this season to date
 

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It's been repeatedly mentioned here that Vail's preferential treatment towards its larger resorts like Mount Snow, Okemo, and Stowe creates a weird imbalance between Epic resorts in the East, often leaving smaller resorts like Wildcat, Attitash, and Sunapee in a disadvantaged position. This comparison of open acreage, while relevant, doesn't capture the full picture of Vail's management focus and its impact on the New England skiing community and why Vail sucks.
When Vail acquired Peak Resorts and its 17-individually-branded ski areas, it was widely reported that their interest in this acquisition was only for Hunter and Mount Snow (corrected as per jaytrem's comment below). The fact is, their PA areas within a day-trip of Washington, DC are some of their biggest money-making machines in their eastern portfolio. To date, Vail has not sold off a single property of the 17-formerly-Peak Resort ski areas. I suggest that their plan is not to dig a hole for themselves by taking on excessive debt, by doing too much, too soon - like ASC did.
 
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jaytrem

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When Vail acquired Peak Resorts and its 17-individually-branded ski areas, it was widely reported that their interest in this acquisition was only for Hunter, Mount Snow and Okemo.
Okemo was never owned by Peak, but there is a lot of inaccurate ski related reporting, so I'm not surprised it was widely reported.
 

jimmywilson69

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When Vail acquired Peak Resorts and its 17-individually-branded ski areas, it was widely reported that their interest in this acquisition was only for Hunter and Mount Snow (corrected as per jaytrem's comment below). The fact is, their PA areas within a day-trip of Washington, DC are some of their biggest money-making machines in their eastern portfolio.
on Roundtop's opening day (12/ 22) there were more individual scans than at Hunter Mountain that day. that's obviously not the norm, but as Joshua said those 3 mole hills make vail a lot of money. The only operational challenges we've had since Vail took over is the weather, which frankly is a long term concern if the trends continue...
 
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