VAIL SUCKS

[1dog]

Sounds like a gondola from Deer Valley to somewhere on or near to Main Street's gonna be approved soon. I'm for it.

Then use some of that incoming Olympics 2034 cash to connect it to PC then to Canyons then to a big parking lot near the outlets.

I have a bizarre love for gondolas though so I'm biased.

Are you in the Mile High Club BG? Maybe that's the attraction- I loved those long rides in original Killington Orange gondolas.

My high school bud moved to PC , raised his family there, was a Strawberry, SB , and Canyons MHC member- might have even conceived his kids in them there Gondi's!

 

[raisingarizona]

There's too many people that ski at those resorts currently so lets build a gondola so we can squeeze some more people in? Not sure I see the logic in that.
Adding more terrain like the Deer Valley expansion at least will mitigate the overcrowding on the slopes.

I imagine it could cut down on auto traffic through PC. Good luck mitigating crowds in the Wasatch, the estimated growth in Utah over the next foreseen future ain’t light.

 

[ThatGuy]

I imagine it could cut down on auto traffic through PC. Good luck mitigating crowds in the Wasatch, the estimated growth in Utah over the next foreseen future ain’t light.

They need to make an underground train or something to get up the canyons not the useless gondola. Plus a parking garage at the base so people can more easily use the bus.

 

[kingslug]

All of which will be vetoed.
Unless something really ..drasticly bad happens on the road.

 

[ThatGuy]

All of which will be vetoed.
Unless something really ..drasticly bad happens on the road.

Imagine if an avy came down on the red snake one day…

 

[PAabe]

Everyone wearing Vail jackets at Roundtop - surely looks a bit out of place. Also all lifties wearing helmets? Not just at the top as if they were going to ski down at the end of their shift but also at the bottom. Is this a requirement?

 

[PAabe]

I haven't been to the place in years. They do not appear to have invested a single cent. Everything is exactly the same since before Naylor left (not necessarily the worst thing I guess) if slightly rougher around the edges, and double the price. ($6 for a small cup of black coffee - no thanks, l'll eat my ham sandwich and water from the bubbler). I do commend the snowmaking efforts there in that nearly everything was open this early and the same fairly high quality snow they've always had. There was some sort of breakdown of the fife and drum lift with some people stuck for a short time but they did get it going again before the end of the night. Also shut down the bar in the cafeteria right in front of my eyes at like 5. On a friday. They're open till 9 for skiing. Kind of a wtf. May be that the bar upstairs was open yet but still.

 

[jaytrem]

Everyone wearing Vail jackets at Roundtop - surely looks a bit out of place. Also all lifties wearing helmets? Not just at the top as if they were going to ski down at the end of their shift but also at the bottom. Is this a requirement?

Seems like a fixed grip thing, noticed it at Mount Snow also.

 

[jimmywilson69]

Definitely a fixed grip vail thing. There been wearing helmets since day 1 of vail while loading the lifts roundtop.

While there has been minimal investment its mostly been for non sexy stuff. Really no complaints about operations at my corporate overlord owned local ski hill.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

sounds like an insurance savings because fixed grips dont slow thru the loading station and could conk a minimum wage employee on the noggin

 

[kingslug]

Imagine if an avy came down on the red snake one day…

Thats my worry.
Buses have been taken out.
I was stuck for 6 hours in gmd when that happened.

 

[MidnightJester]

Union members claimed in a press release “the resort chose to operate with a fraction of ski patrollers and mountain safety personnel than would normally be on the mountain, and opened only a fraction of the terrain that would normally be open given the recent snow.

Park City Mountain operates at 17% capacity during patrollers' strike - TownLift, Park City News

PARK CITY, Utah — The Park City Professional Ski Patrol Association (PCPSPA) strike, now in its second day, has garnered national attention as patrollers

townlift.com

 

[thetrailboss]

Union members claimed in a press release “the resort chose to operate with a fraction of ski patrollers and mountain safety personnel than would normally be on the mountain, and opened only a fraction of the terrain that would normally be open given the recent snow.

Park City Mountain operates at 17% capacity during patrollers' strike - TownLift, Park City News

PARK CITY, Utah — The Park City Professional Ski Patrol Association (PCPSPA) strike, now in its second day, has garnered national attention as patrollers

townlift.com

Except it’s a low snow season so there is not as much open….

 

[ThatGuy]

Except it’s a low snow season so there is not as much open….

I like how they are saying the percentage open is some damning evidence that its all the patrols fault there isn’t more open but then have this quote…

“On the second day of the strike, Park City Mountain’s Lift and Terrain Status page reported that 17% of the mountain was open to guests, with 60 out of 350 trails and 25 out of 41 lifts operational. Neighboring Deer Valley Resort reported 50% of its terrain open, with 61 out of 123 runs and 19 out of 24 lifts available”

Plus DV has more mellow terrain with a vastly superior snowmaking system.

Also this quote

“Emmet Murray, a member of the PCPSPA Executive Board emphasized the resolve of the ski patrollers. “It’s not easy being out here on the picket line,” he said. “I’d much rather be up on the hill, getting trained on areas like 99 and Jupiter or working to open the Dream Terrain that could be available. But instead, we’re out here because it’s the right thing to do.”

You can’t even get to Jupe access right now because none of the lifts leading to it have opened and Dream terrain isnt ready to open because snowmaking hasn’t connected to Iron Mountain yet which needs to be done before its even possible to get to and from that area without an abundance of natural snowfall.

Plus they are acting like the mountain having lines on the busiest week of the year are due to the strike. Anyone who skis holidays knows how crazy it is, just look at Alta.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UTsnow/comments/1hoiihk https://www.reddit.com/r/UTsnow/comments/1hobxop

 

[kingslug]

But Alta was fun today....lines were long until about 145...im in there somewhere. A lot of the mountain was closed..but that was for avy control...the bombimg went on all day.
Im kerploopt

 

[thetrailboss]

I like how they are saying the percentage open is some damning evidence that its all the patrols fault there isn’t more open but then have this quote…

“On the second day of the strike, Park City Mountain’s Lift and Terrain Status page reported that 17% of the mountain was open to guests, with 60 out of 350 trails and 25 out of 41 lifts operational. Neighboring Deer Valley Resort reported 50% of its terrain open, with 61 out of 123 runs and 19 out of 24 lifts available”

Plus DV has more mellow terrain with a vastly superior snowmaking system.

Also this quote

“Emmet Murray, a member of the PCPSPA Executive Board emphasized the resolve of the ski patrollers. “It’s not easy being out here on the picket line,” he said. “I’d much rather be up on the hill, getting trained on areas like 99 and Jupiter or working to open the Dream Terrain that could be available. But instead, we’re out here because it’s the right thing to do.”

You can’t even get to Jupe access right now because none of the lifts leading to it have opened and Dream terrain isnt ready to open because snowmaking hasn’t connected to Iron Mountain yet which needs to be done before its even possible to get to and from that area without an abundance of natural snowfall.

Plus they are acting like the mountain having lines on the busiest week of the year are due to the strike. Anyone who skis holidays knows how crazy it is, just look at Alta.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UTsnow/comments/1hoiihk https://www.reddit.com/r/UTsnow/comments/1hobxop

I can personally attest that the lines at Alta were insane. It got a bit better after lunch and after they opened Supreme. But I have never seen the singles line as long as it was today. It was slow opening terrain because of avalanche mitiagtion work. One could hear detonations all morning long. It didn't help that a lot of Alta and Snowbird were closed yesterday or slow to open. With the new snow there was a lot of pent up demand.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Except it’s a low snow season so there is not as much open….

All Unions are fully of crap, but this one's particularly bad.

I'm also shocked how bad Vail's PR department is at countering it, so I'm thinking their strategy is not to comment, in an attempt to not amplify and to keep the news on the down-low as much as possible, but if so, IMO that's a losing strategy.

 

[thetrailboss]

Re: Alta.

This is after things started to quiet down.....

 

[thetrailboss]

The singles line was all the way back to the entrance of Alf's. I've never seen that before......

 

[thetrailboss]

But Alta was fun today....lines were long until about 145...im in there somewhere. A lot of the mountain was closed..but that was for avy control...the bombimg went on all day.
Im kerploopt

I probably skied by you or stood beside you in line. There were some nice treats here and there. Most folks stuck to the groomers.