BenedictGomez
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LOL. I mean, there really was a power outage this morning followed by surges.
Are you suggesting Vail sabotaged their own power somehow to save face for closing a few Canyons lifts?
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VAIL SUCKS
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Are you suggesting Vail sabotaged their own power somehow to save face for closing a few Canyons lifts?
“We would never sabotage ourselves. In fact we have the anti strike task force out protecting our assets from these terrorist patrollers”
crystalmountainskier
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Most lifts can run on diesel. All the lifts outside of avalanche terrain ran. All the lifts in avalanche terrain did not. Very selective power outage. Or the power outage was resolved relatively quickly and the patrol strike was the main issue today.
kingslug
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Saddleback and Sun Peak are not in Avy terrain at all.
kbroderick
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Most lifts have diesel backup, but ANSI regs require an additional backup propulsion option anytime you're loading customers. So if you want to load without grid power, you need a primary and a secondary diesel option, at least in states that have adopted most of the relevant modern regs. I don't know where Utah falls.
It's also possible that they couldn't open lifts because of the power outage *and* they wouldn't have been able to open the terrain served due to staffing limitations. Or that they are sufficiently short staffed for lift mechanics that they could only recover from an outage and surge scenario on a subset of lifts in a timely fashion.
Regardless, there's no way that having almost 200 experienced patrollers with good local knowledge out doesn't have an impact on operations.
BenedictGomez
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I don't understand how Deidre Walsh could have screwed up the ski area operations management of this situation so badly.
After all, she was a Food & Beverage Director.
After all, she was a Food & Beverage Director.
Edd
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I checked, you’re correct. I’ve had an unconscious assumption that they saved those types for unimportant east coast areas.
Thinking about it, I guess it’s impossible to be a hands-on GM at a place as vast as PC so maybe it counter-intuitively makes more sense to give an unqualified candidate something like PC? Fuck if I know, Vail’s genius is beyond me.
She worked her way up from being in banquets to the COO of the mountain so at least she came from PC. And shes actually a pretty nice person I had some interactions with her over the summer when she would stay in the hotel. Plus she ran Northstar for a few years before coming back here so its not like she’s completely inexperienced.
Edd
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I’d actually missed that she’d run Northstar.
kingslug
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Well the bbq at tombstone is good
MidnightJester
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Vermont ski culture and ski towns are changing. Many are blaming Vail.
How has Vail’s acquisition of Vermont ski areas impacted locals?
Vermont ski culture and ski towns are changing. Many are blaming Vail.
BenedictGomez
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Never had it; keepin' it real. But if the wind's blowing just right you can smell it skiing down Chicane.
Someone posted that a while back. Interesting listen but some statements did not make sense.Vermont ski culture and ski towns are changing. Many are blaming Vail.
How has Vail’s acquisition of Vermont ski areas impacted locals?
Vermont ski culture and ski towns are changing. Many are blaming Vail.www.vermontpublic.org
BenedictGomez
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Vail completely ****** up Stowe.
When I worked there it was a big mountain with a small mountain family feel.
Now I imagine you probably have your choice of multiple varieties of caviar, you pay for everything (including parking), they knocked down the Spruce lodge which was built (I think) in the 1950s, apparently traffic is really horrendous, and I imagine all the local bosses & managers are gone, replaced by food & beverage managers from southern Minnesota.
Vail only took over in 2017? The toothpaste was already out of the tube by the time they got their dirty mitts on it. I would say AIG at least had left the tube on the counter so folks could remember what once was. Vail just finished the job and swiped it off the counter into the trash to remove all signs of the past.
For the town of Stowe, the biggest cultural change was for sure 9/11. I actually had my moving away party 9/10/01. We partied all night at Elmore Mountain State Park and woke up hearing about the planes crashing into the towers on the radio while eating eggs around the campfire. I moved out of state 9/12. Left VT for 3 years and only visited minimally until I moved back in 2004.
While away all of my friends would talk about how the town was being taken over by wealthy Wall Street families and real estate was going bananas because of it. That was basically the start of the remote work movement when it was only the very wealthy who could afford the technologies to make remote work possible or more importantly the political capital at their jobs to tell their employees they would be working away from the cities if their companies wanted to keep them. When I got back to town, all of the rusted out Saabs and Subarus you would see around town were replaced by Range Rovers and Mercedes. I imagine ski bums from the 90s in Park City, Aspen, Jackson Hole etc, have similar stories.
kingslug
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But..it remained one of the best mtns in the east.
I mean sure, Walmart could take it over and it would still be the best combination of natural snow and terrain in the East.
But the experience absolutely sucks compared to what it once was.
The place used to ooze ski bum town like no other place in the East. Yes, they always had some outside wealth, but that demographic didn't dominate the vibe. Now? The vibe is gold plated bidets that shoot champagne up people's asses that think water isn't good enough.
But the experience absolutely sucks compared to what it once was.
The place used to ooze ski bum town like no other place in the East. Yes, they always had some outside wealth, but that demographic didn't dominate the vibe. Now? The vibe is gold plated bidets that shoot champagne up people's asses that think water isn't good enough.
