VAIL SUCKS

[BenedictGomez]

He definitely has a self flattering painting of himself hanging above his mantel

I imagine him looking impossibly young, in a wine cellar with trophies.

 

[BenedictGomez]

The son of my kids' teacher picked the wrong week to have a bad accident at Park City. Punctured lung, fractured vertebrae and a broken rib. Apparently it took patrol right about an hour to get there.

Did they say what trail it was? If it was during the strike, there really wasn't any "far away" terrain open.

Of course if it happened somewhere in the trees you never know I guess.

 

[urungus]

The son of my kids' teacher picked the wrong week to have a bad accident at Park City. Punctured lung, fractured vertebrae and a broken rib. Apparently it took patrol right about an hour to get there. Gotta wonder if they knew how serious it was. If true, that's a crazy bad response time. Sounds like he'll be okay, but he's still in the hospital out there.

Hope the kid is OK. Was this today, after the strike has been settled ?

 

[jaytrem]

Did they say what trail it was? If it was during the strike, there really wasn't any "far away" terrain open.

Of course if it happened somewhere in the trees you never know I guess.

He was skiing the last 1/2 day by himself. So his mom doesn’t know where exactly other than I think Canyons side. Apparently other guests were very helpful. Just glad he's going to be fine, and hopefully doesn't mess up his college semester.

 

[kingslug]

An hour???
I can get from canyons to pc side in 26 minutes....
Thats waaay to long!

 

[deadheadskier]

Well, I think that's the entire point about the importance of having a mostly tenured staff vs just firing most and starting over. Mountain knowledge is critical for response time and it takes a long time to learn 7k acres.

I remember several years ago watching a 5 year old girl lose control on a long icy patch at Cannon and going flying into the woods at a really high speed. Incredibly frightening to watch. Several people were there and went to the tree line to go in after her. I decided to tuck straight to the bottom to ski patrol. I didn't know the names of the trails at Cannon all too well at the time, but I described the terrain / trails and patrol was like, "Oh, at the usual spot." They knew exactly what I was talking about and had someone on the way immediately. Miraculously the girl threaded the needle of all the trees and snowmaking equipment and was mostly fine. It could have been incredibly bad.

You could be the most skilled surgeon on earth volunteer patroller, but if you don't know where to go to respond in time, it doesn't matter. Ultimately I think this is a big part of the reason Vail came to an agreement with the union vs starting over with new patrol.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

i think i know 'the spot'. a snowboard friend who is really into wreckless straightlining went in there and dislocated his shoulder

im terrible with cannon names. but like, a blue groomer that is under the main HSQ and to skier's left there is an unfenced drop off into woods

 

[jaytrem]

An hour???
I can get from canyons to pc side in 26 minutes....
Thats waaay to long!

Yup, pretty crazy if true. I'm just third hand info on this one, the girls were very excited to tell me all about it though. I just hope they didn't grill their teacher too much. I know they were trying to figure out where. Do you remember how much was open on the Canyons around New Years? Who knows how many other injuries they were dealing with at the time? I noticed 3 sled required injuries in a very short span of time at Mount Snow over break.

 

[thetrailboss]

I imagine him looking impossibly young, in a wine cellar with trophies.

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"I'm speechless!"

 

[BenedictGomez]

Do you remember how much was open on the Canyons around New Years?

That's what's kind of weird about hearing of an hour to get there. Very little was open, and none of the farther-away places were open. It was pretty much just what's available to reach off of Saddleback & OBX if I'm remembering right. All really easy/quick stuff to get to. Super Condor hasn't opened this year, and 9990, Tombstone, and Peak 5 weren't open back then because the lawyers wisely weren't touching avy risk with a 10-foot pole.

 

[kingslug]

Unless it was iron mountain...thats a schlep.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Unless it was iron mountain...thats a schlep.

Funny thing about Iron Mountain on Saturday. They didn't groom anything except Mercury. But all they had was this little tiny 16x8 sign saying, "no groomed terrain ahead" - which isnt much of a warning. If you skipped Mercury & pass that sign, there's no escape. Not only was it ungroomed, but Double Nickel & Lead Foot had really nice sized moguls the entire length of the trials. People were going down all over. The carnage was particularly severe at the very bottom of the Double Nickel (pictured) which is narrow, steep, and with a tree right in the middle. Total chaos. It was legitimately a Black Diamond that day, but quite comical. People were taking their skis off & walking down.

 

[kingslug]

Its such a huge difference between what I see at Alta and pc.
A bit of powder and some bumps and pc is total carnage.
6 year olds at Alta are bombing chutes....
But...its all good!!

 

[BenedictGomez]

Its such a huge difference between what I see at Alta and pc.
A bit of powder and some bumps and pc is total carnage.
6 year olds at Alta are bombing chutes....
But...its all good!!

Yeah, it's definitely true lots of places at PC are loaded with beginner & intermediate destination tourists, especially the PC side. But when they open Jupiter you'll see you're not going to find poor skiers there. McConkey's & Super Condor are mostly solid skiers too. It's sort of, "pod specific" if you will.

 

[ThatGuy]

Yeah, it's definitely true lots of places at PC are loaded with beginner & intermediate destination tourists, especially the PC side. But when they open Jupiter you'll see you're not going to find poor skiers there. McConkey's & Super Condor are mostly solid skiers too. It's sort of, "pod specific" if you will.

9990 can be a jerry magnet at times but agree about Jupe most people there can shred since its a little harder to get to

 

[kingslug]

And its a lot harder than 99.
All an intermediate skier needs is one attempted run there...and they wont be back...if they make it out.
A decent intermediate can get down 94 turns into the garden and out.

 

[thetrailboss]

The caliber of skiers and riders in LCC is vastly different than at DVR and PCMR in my experience. Yes, there are exceptions, but LCC attracts more serious skiers and riders.

 

[kingslug]

The crazy traverses alone at Alta would freak a lot of people out..

 

[jaytrem]

Turns out the injury was on the Park City side. His mom thought it was Canyons since her sister has a condo there.

 

[kingslug]

Oy...
And in other news...
They are now being pursued by...
Investors for anti trust
Guests
And park city itself...